political guy wrote:
You've got the group of people who will vote republican no matter what, and the group who will vote democrat no matter what. The swing voters will choose the one that seems sane and reasonable.
This is how Democrats get elected... they lie about being centrists and then govern to the left.
Republicans run on what they actually believe which alienates the centrists...
political guy wrote:
55YO wrote:
No, because then they would not be at work on election day.
This is in bad faith. You really think the Republican Party is in favor of higher voter turnout overall? I now question the majority of what you've posted.
Only the best among us think voting for the mentally ill and infirm and trading drug addicts and homeless drugs and alcohol for votes is what the founders had in mind...
There's only 1 reason to be opposed to voter ID.
guess which ones wrote:
OozmaKappa wrote:
A reminder of how radical the modern left is:
You got guys in here who dont understand what a democratic republic is and why the senate exists who are seriously suggesting we should essentially abolish the senate and become a pure democracy.
These are likely the same clowns who want to do away with the Supreme Court as well.
I'm sensing a common theme here. It seems that any time an institution is not completely controlled by or biased towards democrats then that institution needs to be torn down and rebuilt so that it can favor democrats. This even extends to social media.
I understand what a democratic republic is. My understanding of it informs my thoughts about it. I think a system which favors certain voters over others is ridiculous. The minority rules over the majority because of arbitrarily drawn lines around states. The system acts as an obstruction to the will of the people which is not very democratic in my opinion. I don't know exactly what changes I would make to the senate, but I would abolish the electoral college tomorrow. I don't think you should be able to lose the popular vote and be the president. That makes no sense.
Your understanding is flawed.
The entire point of a democratic republic is to protect the minority from the majority.
Leftists simply can't understand why the founding fathers elected not to create a pure democracy. It's like they never took a government class.
OozmaKappa wrote:
Leftists simply can't understand why the founding fathers elected not to create a pure democracy. It's like they never took a government class.
Well if the founding fathers intended it, then it must be right.
OozmaKappa wrote:
Leftists simply can't understand why the founding fathers elected not to create a pure democracy. It's like they never took a government class.
If we only went with what they intended in 1789, non-white people and women wouldn’t be voting today, because that definitely wasn’t intended then.
Written into the Constitution is a tool to change it with changing times.
How low a percentage of popular support is acceptable to dictate the course of the nation?
Jeff Wigand wrote:
OozmaKappa wrote:
Leftists simply can't understand why the founding fathers elected not to create a pure democracy. It's like they never took a government class.
If we only went with what they intended in 1789, non-white people and women wouldn’t be voting today, because that definitely wasn’t intended then.
Written into the Constitution is a tool to change it with changing times.
How low a percentage of popular support is acceptable to dictate the course of the nation?
Where is race or gender mentioned in the Bill of Rights?
Slavery had existed FOREVER when the founders lived and every single state in the north had abolished by 1804 and fought a war to end the rest of it in less than a century after the declaration.
Why do you leftist imbeciles hold 18th century America to a standard your own neighborhood can't live up to in 2022??
Slavery still exists TODAY and modern Democrats have done more lasting harm to African-Americans in the last 50 years than slavery managed to do in 4 HUNDRED years.
Liberals are morons.. wrote:
This is how Democrats get elected... they lie about being centrists and then govern to the left.
Republicans run on what they actually believe which alienates the centrists...
Trump said he was going to eliminate the national debt and have a fantastic health care program to replace the Affordable Care Act. What happened?
Every presidential candidate makes promises they know aren’t deliverable. But those two are among the worst I can remember.
are you sure you are a republican wrote:
OozmaKappa wrote:
Leftists simply can't understand why the founding fathers elected not to create a pure democracy. It's like they never took a government class.
Well if the founding fathers intended it, then it must be right.
Name a single country that did it better...
Liberals are morons.. wrote:
[quote]Jeff Wigand wrote:
Where is race or gender mentioned in the Bill of Rights?[/quotes]
If you’re telling me that the men who wrote and passed the Constitution in the 18th Century intended for women and non-white people to vote, hold office and be part of the political process, I think you’ve been given bad information.
[quote]Liberals are morons.. wrote:
Slavery had existed FOREVER when the founders lived and every single state in the north had abolished by 1804 and fought a war to end the rest of it in less than a century after the declaration.
Is this what the Founding Fathers intended? And no mention of women?
Liberals are morons.. wrote:
Why do you leftist imbeciles hold 18th century America to a standard your own neighborhood can't live up to in 2022??
Do you think no one suggested that non-whites or women were people and should be treated as equals in 1789? There were many critics of the United States at the time who excoriated America’s proclamations of independence and freedom while still holding millions of humans as slaves.
Liberals are morons.. wrote:
Slavery still exists TODAY
We can talk prisons.
Liberals are morons.. wrote:
and modern Democrats have done more lasting harm to African-Americans in the last 50 years than slavery managed to do in 4 HUNDRED years.
All the Democrats opposed to integration left for the GOP between the end of World War II and Johnson’s push for the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Democrats are far from perfect, but they’re not trying to limit the number of Black people who can vote today.
Liberals are morons.. wrote:
There's only 1 reason to be opposed to voter ID.
Are IDs and the accompanying paperwork needed to obtain them free? No? How is it not a poll tax?
Is this what the Founding Fathers intended? And no mention of women?
Why do you expect the founders to operate outside of their own time and space??
Minority and female suffrage didn't exist in Europe until the 20th century.
Do you think no one suggested that non-whites or women were people and should be treated as equals in 1789? There were many critics of the United States at the time who excoriated America’s proclamations of independence and freedom while still holding millions of humans as slaves.
There were racists and sexists in a time when virtually EVERYONE was racist and sexist???? NO WAY!!! Those same critics lived in countries where women and blacks couldn't vote. Slavery was legal everywhere from France, to Spain, Portugal, and the British Empire at the time of the declaration. You're ignorant.
We can talk prisons.
While we're being an idiot why not throw in the NFL as slavery too...
All the Democrats opposed to integration left for the GOP between the end of World War II and Johnson’s push for the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Democrats are far from perfect, but they’re not trying to limit the number of Black people who can vote today.
LOL! Name them. ONE senator switched parties. The rest died as proud Democrats. The "big switch" is a revisionist lie Democrats tell themselves to make themselves feel better about their history.
Black people support voter ID. Only white liberals think voter ID is "racist!" and that's only because it would make it harder to cheat.
A centrist did win the last election. Anyone who thinks Joe is a true lefty needs to take a political science course.
Jeff Wigand wrote:
Liberals are morons.. wrote:
There's only 1 reason to be opposed to voter ID.
Are IDs and the accompanying paperwork needed to obtain them free? No? How is it not a poll tax?
In some states it's free. In the most expensive blue states it's less than $5.
When the government gives you THOUSANDS of dollars in free crap every year it's a little ridiculous to try to argue getting the ID that makes you eligible for all the free stuff is a "poll tax".
You cannot get food stamps or WIC or Medicaid or a bus pass or a million other things without ID.
The voter suppression argument is pure an unadulterated BS.
Democrats want no ID and bloated voter rolls specifically so they can cheat.
Liberals are morons.. wrote:
This is how Democrats get elected... they lie about being centrists and then govern to the left.
Bro, have you met Joe Biden? He did the complete opposite 😂
Ya dweeb.
a high school teacher/coach wrote:
A centrist did win the last election. Anyone who thinks Joe is a true lefty needs to take a political science course.
Anyone who thinks the last 12 months have been centrist is too stupid to be voting....
the macdaddy og yoo wrote:
Liberals are morons.. wrote:
This is how Democrats get elected... they lie about being centrists and then govern to the left.
Bro, have you met Joe Biden? He did the complete opposite 😂
Ya dweeb.
WHAT??? He acted like he was a moderate and now the Squad is telling his diaper wearing @ss what to do...
Jeff Wigand wrote:
Liberals are morons.. wrote:
This is how Democrats get elected... they lie about being centrists and then govern to the left.
Republicans run on what they actually believe which alienates the centrists...
Trump said he was going to eliminate the national debt and have a fantastic health care program to replace the Affordable Care Act. What happened?
Every presidential candidate makes promises they know aren’t deliverable. But those two are among the worst I can remember.
Trump was naive and underestimated how filthy and corrupt DC was.
The scary orange man kept more promises than any other candidate in the last 40 years.
You can't do anything if the opposition party stonewalls you. Obama set the tone when he locked Republicans out in 2009-2010 and it's been gridlock ever since.
"Elections have consequences"
Liberals are morons.. wrote:
a high school teacher/coach wrote:
A centrist did win the last election. Anyone who thinks Joe is a true lefty needs to take a political science course.
Anyone who thinks the last 12 months have been centrist is too stupid to be voting....
And anyone who thinks they haven’t been gets their news from sources where everyone has “commentator” on their FCC license.
a high school teacher/coach wrote:
Liberals are morons.. wrote:
Anyone who thinks the last 12 months have been centrist is too stupid to be voting....
And anyone who thinks they haven’t been gets their news from sources where everyone has “commentator” on their FCC license.
You think Build Back Better is centrist?
You think defund the police is centrist?
You think pork laden "infrastructure" bills don't include any infrastructure are centrist?
You're absolutely delusional. Biden is polling lower than jock itch for a reason and it isn't because of Fox News...
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