Flagpole wrote:
Exclusivity wrote:
A lot of people on here will talk about how hard it is to not cheat if you're a "high quality man," which is basically them just giving themselves a pass to cheat. Others like Flagpole will say they've been propositioned in spite of wearing a wedding ring...give me a break...
People who have a lot of "opportunities to cheat" are just putting themselves in situations where cheating is likely to happen. Since I've been married, I've been through phases where I had "opportunities" and through times where I haven't really had to struggle. The only difference has been my choices and the situations I get myself into. Flagpole, if you really are getting all these opportunities, you're likely putting yourself in bad situations because you like the attention.
For men really not wanting to cheat, simply:
a) Don't flirt. This is not hard and you can still be a human being around girls. I can still joke around with my friends in a way that nobody accidentally winds up in bed with someone else at the end of the night.
b) This one is easy. If a girl likes you and you spend a lot of time with her, it's your fault when you wind up in a situation that makes you choose between your marriage and your instincts.
c) Don't go out to drink with a woman who might like you and definitely don't get in a situation outside of work where you're totally alone. Again, if something happens after that, it's your fault.
d) Don't just wear a ring (people know that it's meaningless and men cheat), you have to show people how much you're committed to your woman. Bring her to holiday events. Talking about her.
Yeah, it sucks not having as much attention, but it's also comforting to know I'm choosing to be with the person I love and am less likely to slip up. It's not hard if you actually want this. On the other hand, most people like getting into dicey situations because either they'll get laid or they'll feel all heroic when they turn the girl down at the last moment despite stringing her along and acting in ways their wives probably wouldn't like.
Some things:
1) I have been married for 32 years. That's a LONG time...time enough to have lots of opportunities.
2) One of my former jobs required lots of business travel. There were casual hookups on many of these business trips between people who worked in the same industry and lived states apart. I was propositioned a couple of times there.
3) I have played in bands for years, beginning as a married 23-year-old. I've been asked at last call to come "tune my piano" by an attractive woman at the end of the night, and when I told her I didn't do that, she immediately said, "Your drummer's amazing". He was single, I told him she said that, and he plowed her that night which is all she wanted. I've had other opportunities from those bar gigs too.
4) My wife and I were across the country from each other for about 4 months when she was beginning a new (second) graduate degree, and I was finishing up mine. I was asked by one female acquaintance during that time if she could come over to make sure I "made my bed" in my wife's absence.
I have never been looking for it. I have never flirted with any woman since being married (other than my wife of course). I have not put myself in situations to look for it (band gigs kind of open yourself up to that, but I am it for the music and always have been, not the drinking or anything else associated with playing live music). Sorry, brother, but some men get propositioned by women. I am not unattractive, and I am affable and approachable and non-threatening which is why I have been propositioned so many times. Also, as Napoleon Dynamite told you, women like men with skills. I have skills as anyone at one of my live band performances can attest.
One time, (and this is not the same as being propositioned), but I was at a business conference at the Opryland Hotel in Nashville, TN when I got a call in my room from a prostitute who said she was in the lobby and was ready for me to come down to get her. I said, "what?!". She said, "you called to book me". I told her I absolutely did not, and then she said maybe someone was playing a prank on me. We hung up, and I called the front desk to tell them of the situation, and they confirmed to me that I was one of three men there with the same first and last name staying at the hotel that day.