Pfizer Scientists: Your Antibodies Are Better Than The Vaccination

old_dead_people wrote:

Flagpole can you explain why this isn't being mandated to businesses with under 100 employees? Do they not spread covid? Why allow for weekly testing? Why not exempt those with natural immunity?

I won't hold my breath...

I am not a law maker. No, I will not attempt to explain the size of company thing. As far as the natural immunity goes, the vaccine provides better and more consistent protection...oh, and we need to track you people...forgot that part.

surveysays wrote:

Fully Vaxxed COVID positive wrote:

I'm fully vaxxed with Moderna and contracted COVID. The CDC seems to be suppressing the truth.

Could you point me to where the CDC said that it was impossible to ever contract COVID if fully vaccinated with Moderna?

Um...yeah. There is even a term for it -- "Breakthrough Infections". The truth is being told. My sister was infected also after being vaxxed. It was extremely minor for her though, and she did not spread it to her other vaxxed family members.

Noyankee wrote:

yawntowns wrote:

See his 1).

Giving an, or else, ultimatum defines force. You lose this argument all day every day.

No it doesn't. Kroger can tell me I MUST buy only their most expensive items if I want to shop there, and I can say, "BS...I'll head to Giant Eagle!" There are WAY too many options for people who don't want to get vaccinated for it to be considered force. It's just not. It's a condition of employment in some places. Big freakin' deal.

Kobbs Hessler wrote:

Kenneth Copeland, Verified Millionaire wrote:

To all the morons out there, that means you have to GET the virus, which for some reason I have to remind you troglodytes is absolutely what you don't want to do. Plus the vaccines are very effective. The implication of this post is beyond insane.

No one is trying to get the virus on purpose just to get natural immunity. But many millions have gotten it, recovered, and are more immune than shot takers. Btw, the virus survival rate for non-obese people under age 70 is 99.9%.

1) Actually, there are a lot of people who are trying to get it or hoping they do. These morons are pretty vocal about it.

2) The fact that a person has had COVID and recovered actually does NOT mean they are more immune than the "shot takers". Level of immunity is dependent on the viral load...your body's immune response is not the same with a small load vs. a larger load. The vaccine provides better and more consistent protection.

3) Immunity either from the vaccine or from having been infected wears off, so if you are not getting the vaccine because you've had COVID, then that attitude should wear off also.

Nope. How is finding another job a drastic life change? People go get other jobs all the time because they don't like the environment at their current one. And retiring? Some people are just at the age where that's a real possibility. They were likely going to retire anyway soon, and many people just need a reason to go ahead and do it.

[quote]Flagpole wrote:

[quote]Noyankee wrote:

[quote]Flagpole wrote:

[quote]800 dude wrote:

[quote]Flagpole wrote:

Nope. Not being forced. They have options...viable ones too. It's a condition of employment. There are consequences to any decision we make...doesn't mean we were forced into making a decision. Until your ACTUAL freedom becomes an issue, as in you will be jailed or expelled from the country if you do not get vaccinated, then I reject the "forced" label.

So vax or lose your job -- which was most assuredly not a condition of employment when you got hired and for all the years you worked there until now -- and lose your health care and so possibly your home and you will not be allowed to collect unemployment is not being forced?

My God. What kind of Stockholm Syndrome are you dealing with?

You eat candy for breakfast wrote:

Nugent has an ideal diet to "fight" Covid. He's also not obese, like the 10-year-old girl all over the news, who was "in perfect health," despite weighing more than I do.

Covid is only dangerous if you're fat and out of shape.

1) Yes, that 10-year-old girl was very overweight. Obese from the looks of the photos I saw. That story, while sad and still needs to be told, isn't one that converts anyone to go get vaccinated.

2) You are incorrect that COVID is only dangerous if you are fat and out of shape. It is MORE dangerous for that group of people, but not ONLY for that group of people. Also, you left out people age 65 and older. But, hey, they are old and should just die anyway, right? COVID is not something you want. For people who survive, there are some real negative effects that are extremely common.

high school xc coach wrote:

the issue is not that people are forgoing the vaccine because they want to get antibodies through getting covid, the issue is that our gov't is forcing people who already contracted covid to also get the vaccine. It is complete bs.

Exactly this.

The Unkle wrote:

[quote]Flagpole wrote:

[quote]Noyankee wrote:

[quote]Flagpole wrote:

[quote]800 dude wrote:

[quote]Flagpole wrote:

Nope. Not being forced. They have options...viable ones too. It's a condition of employment. There are consequences to any decision we make...doesn't mean we were forced into making a decision. Until your ACTUAL freedom becomes an issue, as in you will be jailed or expelled from the country if you do not get vaccinated, then I reject the "forced" label.

So vax or lose your job -- which was most assuredly not a condition of employment when you got hired and for all the years you worked there until now -- and lose your health care and so possibly your home and you will not be allowed to collect unemployment is not being forced?

My God. What kind of Stockholm Syndrome are you dealing with?

Your employment at any company is at their whim. You are not guaranteed a job. Situations change in the world that can require a company to change their conditions for employment. You big baby.

Flagpole wrote:

oh, and we need to track you people...forgot that part.

You are already being tracked so that's OK.

Flagpole. Get off your knees, groveling before the bosses. You think you are hardened because you eat all the 'sh**t they force upon us without so much as a peep?

Based on that YouTube video, that guy isn’t a scientist. He’s probably in HR or marketing. I’m not necessarily saying he’s wrong, but the way he talks you can tell he’s not a scientist. He uses words that are not definitionally correct by science standards, but non-scientists use them all the time.

Anyways, the answer to why Pfizer is pushing for vaccine mandates? It’s called money. If we are required to get two booster shots per year for life because the vaccine doesn’t work then Pfizer will make trillions of dollars over the next 10 years and beyond.

Nope. How is finding another job a drastic lifestyle change?

You’re such a tool. Obviously you were born with mommas breast in your mouth and it’s still there,

Or

You work an entry level job where jobs are plenty and you have no family to support.

In any event, it’s not your choice and never will be but it’s nice to know we have weaklings like you still spitting words out.

#Floridasaysso

The Unkle wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Your employment at any company is at their whim. You are not guaranteed a job. Situations change in the world that can require a company to change their conditions for employment. You big baby.

Flagpole. Get off your knees, groveling before the bosses. You think you are hardened because you eat all the 'sh**t they force upon us without so much as a peep?

Well, I went and started my own business, so no groveling for me. How about you?

2 years later and the jab was a sham.

Neither safe nor effective

Both safe and effective. 1.1 million dead in the U.S.

"Overall mortality rates among unvaccinated persons were 14.1 times the rates among bivalent vaccine recipients; mortality rates among monovalent-only vaccine recipients were 2.6 times the rates among bivalent vaccine recipients during the late BA" Feb 10, 2023