Almost everyone overestimates Covid risk

fully-vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

Almost two years into this thing, and still people are so wildly misinformed about risk associated with Covid. Blame the media

Rubbish. I am double vaxed, wear a mask at work and am currently holed up due to COVID.

If what I have had is "mild symptoms" due to the protection of he vaccine, I pity any of the poor fool anti-vaxers when they get it. The last 72 hours has been utter hell and my O2 levels got so low at one point I was on the verge of calling an ambulance.

So no pal, the estimates of the risk are not over-hyped; unlike your confidence in your own understanding of that risk. Perhaps, if you started deeply investigating issues before quoting a simple news article and mouthing off about politics you'd get on better in life and would look like less of an idiot

Stoppit Smith wrote:

dodge ball wrote:

The same could be said for heart disease, traffic accident, old age, hurricane, earthquake, wild fires.

I'll address this and the differences.

Heart disease -- genetic, potentially chronic but not communicable.

Traffic accident -- possible, potentially avoidable, not intentional but not communicable

Old age- inevitable, genetic (as far as traits) but not communicable (nobody is catching my balding head)

Hurricane, earthquake, wildfire ( natural, devastating...but not transmissible

Covid is different that it's highly transmissible through any RNA exchange

Hope this helps.

Your comments dont help.

seattle prattle wrote:

Dew wrote:

The grown-up thing to do is to do what you believe is best.

You got your vaccine? Good for you. Honestly.

Now stop the indocrination and fearmongering.

Thank you.

I am merely imploring everyone to follow the guidelines and recommendations of our health officials, like the CDC, Dr. Faucci, and even the WHO.

We are individuals, but we are also part of a community, and some things are done for the public good, not just what most suits our individual needs.

I believe that the countries who have gotten the virus and the pandemic under control were the ones with a culture that thinks more in those terms.

This doesnt make sense. Youre telling me I need to inject something into my body "for the public good." What if I dont need it?

The Unkle wrote:

Cancer ridden Herman Cain as the one known person supposedly dead from Covid.

Not much of a case to be afraid of Covid

Classic conservative pathology in evidence here. "it hasn't affected me personally therefore it doesn't matter" - sick people.

yes yes yes yes wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

Cancer ridden Herman Cain as the one known person supposedly dead from Covid.

Not much of a case to be afraid of Covid

Look, you damned piece of worthless trash, i am tired of your lies!

We have exhausted this before, pages and pages of posts in which you participated, about all the famous people who died of covid. Look up John Prine, for one, but there are many others, including Tom Dempsey, Charlie Pride, and Tom Seaver,

i am damned pissed that this has become the cesspool of a site it has become and you are largely the reason, and the fact that they allow you to denigrate the truth here regularly and repeatedly is the cause.

You mad, bro?

Stoppit Smith wrote:

fully-vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

Agree. But now people have such a wildly outsized sense of risk that even post-vaccine these people throw a tantrum about ending mask mandates and getting kids back in school.

They’re stupid and ill-informed and they are dragging this country down, and I’m talking about the anti-vaxxers and the liberals in equal measure.

F- off you d- wad.

If it means you can't race for a year or two, so what??!!

Don't you have other things you know to do???

No problem. Well put you in prison for a year or two, so what?

After two years of you losing your time and your life, tell us if you feel the same way.

You can figure out how to reverse that nagging balding issue

Bullet_Proof wrote:

Stoppit Smith wrote:

I'll address this and the differences.

Heart disease -- genetic, potentially chronic but not communicable.

Traffic accident -- possible, potentially avoidable, not intentional but not communicable

Old age- inevitable, genetic (as far as traits) but not communicable (nobody is catching my balding head)

Hurricane, earthquake, wildfire ( natural, devastating...but not transmissible

Covid is different that it's highly transmissible through any RNA exchange

Hope this helps.

Your comments dont help.

You're not the audience I would help.

Bullet_Proof wrote:

Stoppit Smith wrote:

F- off you d- wad.

If it means you can't race for a year or two, so what??!!

Don't you have other things you know to do???

No problem. Well put you in prison for a year or two, so what?

After two years of you losing your time and your life, tell us if you feel the same way.

You can figure out how to reverse that nagging balding issue

Give me a break. All you couldn't do is race. That's all that was taken from you.

Are you seriously telling me that the core of your whole existence, amongst everything you learned has been so painstakingly whittled down to an existence without a road or track race is akin to making your life a prison!?

Are you aware of how shallow that actually is?

LOL

surprised they didnt give you another 3 day ban for threatening people yet.

peater wrote:

surprised they didnt give you another 3 day ban for threatening people yet.

Surprise!

Tough tamales, dude.

yes yes yes yes wrote:

[quote]The Unkle wrote:

Cancer ridden Herman Cain as the one known person supposedly dead from Covid.

Not much of a case to be afraid of Covid

Look, you damned piece of worthless trash, i am tired of your lies!

We have exhausted this before, pages and pages of posts in which you participated, about all the famous people who died of covid. Look up John Prine, for one, but there are many others, including Tom Dempsey, Charlie Pride, and Tom Seaver,

Thanks for the set-up:

Lewy body dementia was highlighted in the news twice this week with the death of Hall of Fame pitcher Tom Seaver from Lewy body dementia complications.

Dempsey had been battling myriad health problems in recent years, including Alzheimer’s and dementia. He lived in the Lambeth House assisted living facility, which has been a hotbed for COVID-19 in the New Orleans area.

Charley Pride. 86 year old cancer victim

John Prine. Neck and lung cancer.

These are the most famous Americans to die "from" Covid.

Each of them had very serious health issues and was pretty to quite old.

Know any American celebrities to die from Covid who did not already have a foot in the grave and the other foot on a patch of ice?

These are the four typically named and all were very ill pre Covid.

Not too scary

Lolclowns wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

Cancer ridden Herman Cain as the one known person supposedly dead from Covid.

Not much of a case to be afraid of Covid

Classic conservative pathology in evidence here. "it hasn't affected me personally therefore it doesn't matter" - sick people.

Actually the fact that Covid has not taken a single famous American who was not already deathly ill and quite old during a pandemic that has raged for 20 months underscores the fact that its impact has been grossly inflated.

The Unkle wrote:

Lolclowns wrote:

Classic conservative pathology in evidence here. "it hasn't affected me personally therefore it doesn't matter" - sick people.

Actually the fact that Covid has not taken a single famous American who was not already deathly ill and quite old during a pandemic that has raged for 20 months underscores the fact that its impact has been grossly inflated.

I never heard of this guy but I thought maybe you came up with a otherwise healthy guy who died from Covid.

Apparently not.

http://www.poletical.com/nick-cordero-coronavirus-death.php

Dew wrote:

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

Having empathy is a sign of weakness.

A real freedumb fighter only thinks about himself. His freedumb over everything else. That's how you show your strength and toughness.

You show zero empathy for people who don't share your opinion.

No. I don't have any empathy for egotistic narcissists who think "700,000 is not enough."

fully-vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:

Almost two years into this thing, and still people are so wildly misinformed about risk associated with Covid. Blame the media.

Democrats wildly overestimate Covid risk...only 2% correctly identify unvaccinated risk of hospitalization, which is less than 1%. Almost one in two Democrats think there is a greater than 50% chance of being hospitalized if an unvaccinated person catches Covid (again, real answer: <1%).

Republicans (particularly the unvaccinated segment of the party) wildly underestimate vaccine effectiveness.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/354938/adults-estimates-covid-hospitalization-risk.aspx

I definitely “Pooh, pooled COVID and never considered it a threat to me, being healthy and no underlying conditions. But damn, two relatives of mine, one 64 and the other 56, and unvaccinated with no underlying conditions, died of COVID. In both cases it affected their hearts

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

Dew wrote:

You show zero empathy for people who don't share your opinion.

No. I don't have any empathy for egotistic narcissists who think "700,000 is not enough."

The number of people who think that all opinions deserve respect and opinions don’t reflect on the character of their holder… is shockingly high.

A bad opinion can make you look dumb and psychopathic and there’s no law or rule of polite society that says otherwise.

Harambe wrote:

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

No. I don't have any empathy for egotistic narcissists who think "700,000 is not enough."

The number of people who think that all opinions deserve respect and opinions don’t reflect on the character of their holder… is shockingly high.

A bad opinion can make you look dumb and psychopathic and there’s no law or rule of polite society that says otherwise.

It is not about thinking our opinions deserve respect. We know that if we speak our mind, people like you will try to belittle us.

It's about the evil policies, mandates and conditions of employment that are shockingly close to true facism.

Janitors who have worked for a hospital for 25 years are now being told they have to leave because they choose to abstain.

Plumbers, same.

Nurses. Nurses who by the way, followed all safety precautions during the pandemic wearing face shields taking care of all kinds of people, are now fired.

All thanks to people like you. Who cling to "safety". Safety is not a value. Its an instinct. Freedom is a value.

Society should value freedom.

Bullet_Proof wrote:

It is not about thinking our opinions deserve respect. We know that if we speak our mind, people like you will try to belittle us.

It's about the evil policies, mandates and conditions of employment that are shockingly close to true facism.

Janitors who have worked for a hospital for 25 years are now being told they have to leave because they choose to abstain.

Plumbers, same.

Nurses. Nurses who by the way, followed all safety precautions during the pandemic wearing face shields taking care of all kinds of people, are now fired.

All thanks to people like you. Who cling to "safety". Safety is not a value. Its an instinct. Freedom is a value.

Society should value freedom.

If you speak your mind about something you are ignorant of, assume you know more than everyone else, advocate for policies that are harmful, and generally downplay the deaths of Americans, then you DESERVE belittlement.

You still seem to think you have a right to politeness. A thicker skin is much needed if you’re going to start spouting antivaxxer diatribes.

And yeah, if you work at a hospital but won’t do your part to mitigate the spread of a deadly virus that is particularly serious in hospital settings? Goodbye. You knew the conditions of employment when you signed up. It’s not complicated.

Fellas, is being fired for disobeying my employer fascism?