Hey...Hey! Men can have boobs can't they? You should be careful about denying the science.
Hey...Hey! Men can have boobs can't they? You should be careful about denying the science.
Zarmak wrote:
OozmaKappa wrote:
That is literally a man. Allowing men to compete with women means the end of womens sports.
Also, why are they always from Namibia?
LRC response. Your post is the type of post we don't really want. She is not a man. We think the proper definition is intersex. While we don't know the particulars of her situation, it's like she has no penis, no uterus but does have internal testes. That seems pretty much the definition of intersex - external genitalia that is female, internal that is male. Men generally have penises.
I'm not very well-versed in this. She's definitely "female" but is "intersex", meaning has testes that produce testosterone at a level much higher than your "typical female". It's not "fair" in my opinion, but she is "natural" and not deliberately cheating.
This is definitely a grey area and tougher to decide how to handle this situation than say transgender issues which involves pharmaceuticals and gender identity, and is more common sense to figure out imo.
No she is not "definitely female". She definitely identifies as a woman. But her exact sex is messy, and it depends on what criteria you use. This is why she is intersex. It's a gray area.
This is why we need rules based on one's testosterone level...although even that isn't perfect due to enormous athletic benefits one gains from high testosterone throughout development. These advantages remain even with suppression in adulthood.
intersex athletes should not be allowed to compete in the female category.
End of.
khcglhc wrote:
All I can say is that I watched the women 100m and I will watch the women 200m. I did not watch any other races. I may watch the men 110H.
I think this is good for viewership.
0% chance that I would know who Ofili is otherwise
12.73!!! For Zhoya in the 110H
Let’s hope for an even better women 200m
rekrunner wrote:
If I ask the opinion of a 5-year old, I will just get the opinion of a 5-year old.
For you, that would be instructive.
simple one wrote:
I know this may be a simpletons take, so feel free to correct(or bash me since this is letsrun) but isn’t it weird that we find ways to make women who are good at sports unable to compete as females because they exhibit masculine traits? As in, the traits that would make one good at sports? Like say there is a woman who just DOES produce that much testosterone by some freak condition. Why is she not allowed to compete? As the female equivalent of Usain Bolt?
From a woman's perspective, all this looks like is enabling men to clean up womens' prizes.
As if being banned from running certain events before the 1980s wasn't enough, women now have to race against "people" with testes in races supposed to be for women.
There has never been a woman tested who has produced anywhere near the permissable limits on testosterone even in the restricted events from the 400m to the mile.
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If you're asking a 5 year old about sex-anything, you sound like a pervert.
Ain't 1857 wrote:
If Masilingi is a male as you are all
suggesting,then why isn't she running
10s as male jrs are ?
I have a penis, and I never ran 10s like other males either. I would probably have beaten the girls though
Breakfast In Bed wrote:
If you're asking a 5 year old about sex-anything, you sound like a pervert.
You mean to say a 5 yo doesn't know the definition of male v woman?
sex not gender wrote:Her gender is female, she was raised female and has always been female and now people want to ban her from competing as female.
That's not true. Mboma is welcome to compete against regular women at her prefered distance of 400 m on a level playing field by reducing her T-levels to the female range. Mboma has opted not to compete on a level playing field, seeking instead to keep her unfair advantage by switching to 200 m where she's allowed to maintain a male hormone profile.
Can anyone explain to me why a woman with a female gender identity and functioning androgen receptors would want T-levels in the male range and the androgenization that comes with it?
I am Sam wrote:
Breakfast In Bed wrote:
If you're asking a 5 year old about sex-anything, you sound like a pervert.
You mean to say a 5 yo doesn't know the definition of male v woman?
No, he means you’re a pervert if you ask a five year old about sex. Got it now?
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