Armstronglivs was incorrect in dozens of posts here.
Armstronglivs wasn't just wrong. He was strident, emphatic and obnoxious while being wrong (and also posing as a fake lawyer).
Armstronglivs is humiliated by his own ignorance and hubris (again) in this thread. We can be sure he will have some deflection/tangent to try and spin away his vast errors of law and fact, but he was flat out wrong all over this thread.
if you are handed a gun on the set of a movie by a set armorer/asst. director is it not reasonable to assume that the gun is a prop gun and does not contain live rounds?
Are actors now expected to be firearms experts and check every gun on a set before they handle it?
But what if you are the one running the movie set, the one setting the tone for what is acceptable, and if you know that people are firing off live rounds on a set that you are responsible for?
In general, with any average actor, I would agree with you. But this case is different because he had a role on the set that transcended being merely an actor.
What if the actor is also the Producer and is clearly running the show on the set?
What if the actor/producer participated in the hiring of unqualified people who handled the guns?
No they aren't. But he pointed it and pulled the trigger even though he was not suppossed to. It is his fault. He will go to prison for 3 years.
Or he will reach a settlement with the family and it will never go to trial.
Settling civil suits has nothing to do with resolving criminal charges. That is an enormous misunderstanding you have of both the criminal and civil justice systems in the US. Did you go to the same law school as Armstronglivs?
Or he will reach a settlement with the family and it will never go to trial.
Settling civil suits has nothing to do with resolving criminal charges. That is an enormous misunderstanding you have of both the criminal and civil justice systems in the US. Did you go to the same law school as Armstronglivs?
A civil lawsuit for wrongful death has already been settled by Baldwin and Rust Movie Productions LLC, for an undisclosed amount.
I can't tell if it's funnier to believe Armstrong is a fake lawyer, pretending to be one on the Internet, or if he's actually a mentally incompetent lawyer. I know the first is more likely, but the second option is intriguing me now.
I can't tell if it's funnier to believe Armstrong is a fake lawyer, pretending to be one on the Internet, or if he's actually a mentally incompetent lawyer. I know the first is more likely, but the second option is intriguing me now.
The arrest today brings us back to Game Theory and Prisoners Dilemma. Really this brings us back to Cosa Nostra.
Law enforcement can tell criminal suspects your family & friends told on you. Law enforcement can tell suspects we (law enforcement) have video. Law enforcement can tell a suspect we (law enforcement) have air tight forensics. How do law enforcement actually solve criminal cases? Same way criminal cases were solved hundreds of years ago. Criminal defendants talk too much. Money is speech. Baldwin writing a check by itself is not proof of criminal guilt but it's not evidence of innocence either.
In this shooting death, everyone talked and no one legally had to talk.
Alec Baldwin will be charged with involuntary manslaughter in the death of Halyna Hutchins. The cinematographer died after a gun Baldwin was holding fired on the set of "Rust."
And the law requires intent for there to be a crime - the part you missed. Also, for criminal negligence to apply you would have to say every cowboy who has fired a gun in a Western would be guilty of the same - because they too would have trusted it was only a prop when told so - as Baldwin did. This has to be the dumbest site on the internet.
Yep. There is no intent here. No crime. The dummies are certainly flooding this thread for sure.
You make a good point that this might be the dumbest site on the internet. THAT is something that might actually make me leave forever. Hmm...something to seriously consider.
Anyway, you have given me food for thought. When I have to defend a prick like Alec Baldwin, maybe it's time to leave.
Damn. Us "dummies" almost got rid of Flag-"I know everything!"-Pole on this one.
Is he still considering an exit because the "dummies," accurately as it turns out, noted that Baldwin could indeed be criminally charged (and ultimately was)?
SDSU, Armstrong, and Flagpole will all be proven wrong. They will blow it off as the DA being a Republican and they will go back to transgender rights (SDSU), Tuohy peeping (Armstrong), and silly financial advice while he can't retire himself (Flagpole). These three have shown how biased they are in this thread.
Now THAT was a solid prediction (10/25/21). At least about them being proven wrong. We don't yet know how they will spin their ignorance and total misunderstanding of the legal issues presented here.
Homicide, by definition, is not a crime. That is US law school criminal law class 101. You are a FAKE lawyer.
We can all see that you have googled up your basic legal error by now, and are panicked and trying this "rarest exceptions" bit, as if that somehow made your INCORRECT statement of law okay. It does not. Self defense, execution, euthanasia, war, prevention of harm to other, car crashes, etc. are not "exceptions" they are results of the basic definition of "homicide" that you got WRONG. They are not rare either.
You are too dumb, pompous and fake to realize that the VERY reason that Baldwin (the guy you've spent 40 pages advocating for) is not in jail is precisely because homicide is not a crime. Homicide is not crime, Homer. That is bedrock US criminal law and has been for hundreds of years. You are a FAKE lawyer.
And don't forget part two of your double stupidity in this 11 word phrase -- "The court did say there was a crime, which was homicide." The Rittenhouse court NEVER said there was a crime. You are WRONG, and don't have the slightest clue how criminal (or civil cases) in the US proceed.
It really is difficult to exchange views with someone who has no idea either of his limitations or his ignorance of what he is talking about.
Yep. There is no intent here. No crime. The dummies are certainly flooding this thread for sure.
You make a good point that this might be the dumbest site on the internet. THAT is something that might actually make me leave forever. Hmm...something to seriously consider.
Anyway, you have given me food for thought. When I have to defend a prick like Alec Baldwin, maybe it's time to leave.
Damn. Us "dummies" almost got rid of Flag-"I know everything!"-Pole on this one.
Is he still considering an exit because the "dummies," accurately as it turns out, noted that Baldwin could indeed be criminally charged (and ultimately was)?
Him getting charged is one thing. We shall see what happens if this goes to trial. Unless there is something we don't know (because it's not been made public), I don't see how he can be convicted of involuntary manslaughter in this case. As I have said several times in this thread, IF he was responsible for the props in some way OR it is determined that he created an unsafe situation on the set in his role as Executive Producer, then being CONVICTED of negligence or involuntary manslaughter (as is the case here) is warranted. We do not yet know if that's the case. Just taking the fact that he pulled the trigger on a prop gun and someone died is not enough here.
The person whose job it was to provide safe weapons? THAT person should be concerned. The person who handed the gun to Baldwin and told him it was "cold?" THAT person should be concerned.
Too many are wasting time ridiculing Armstrong today. In U.S., when it is known who fired fatal bullet(s), said person is arrested in minutes, hours or within a few days of the shooting. It took months in this firearm death. Prosecutors in New Mexico are obviously very reluctant. It is still possible charges will be reduced or even Dismissed. Are you all going to apologize to Armstrong if charges are reduced to misdemeanors or if charges are Dismissed? This gloating is uncivilized.
He was charged. Several posters were very rude to those trying to discuss the possibility.
So what. Prosecutors in NM charge someone every week for murder and they don't wait for close to a year. No NM prosecutor wants this case. Prosecutors don't like looking like fools in a court room. Prosecutors will Dismiss or will allow Baldwin to plea to misdemeanors.
He was charged. Several posters were very rude to those trying to discuss the possibility.
So what. Prosecutors in NM charge someone every week for murder and they don't wait for close to a year. No NM prosecutor wants this case. Prosecutors don't like looking like fools in a court room. Prosecutors will Dismiss or will allow Baldwin to plea to misdemeanors.
A crime is alleged to have been committed. Someone is dead. It is NOT a matter of “so what.” Have you no humanity?
Damn. Us "dummies" almost got rid of Flag-"I know everything!"-Pole on this one.
Is he still considering an exit because the "dummies," accurately as it turns out, noted that Baldwin could indeed be criminally charged (and ultimately was)?
Him getting charged is one thing. We shall see what happens if this goes to trial. Unless there is something we don't know (because it's not been made public), I don't see how he can be convicted of involuntary manslaughter in this case. As I have said several times in this thread, IF he was responsible for the props in some way OR it is determined that he created an unsafe situation on the set in his role as Executive Producer, then being CONVICTED of negligence or involuntary manslaughter (as is the case here) is warranted. We do not yet know if that's the case. Just taking the fact that he pulled the trigger on a prop gun and someone died is not enough here.
The person whose job it was to provide safe weapons? THAT person should be concerned. The person who handed the gun to Baldwin and told him it was "cold?" THAT person should be concerned.
You are an effing idiot. You said you would leave. Just leave, you effing idiot.
Him getting charged is one thing. We shall see what happens if this goes to trial. Unless there is something we don't know (because it's not been made public), I don't see how he can be convicted of involuntary manslaughter in this case. As I have said several times in this thread, IF he was responsible for the props in some way OR it is determined that he created an unsafe situation on the set in his role as Executive Producer, then being CONVICTED of negligence or involuntary manslaughter (as is the case here) is warranted. We do not yet know if that's the case. Just taking the fact that he pulled the trigger on a prop gun and someone died is not enough here.
The person whose job it was to provide safe weapons? THAT person should be concerned. The person who handed the gun to Baldwin and told him it was "cold?" THAT person should be concerned.
You are an effing idiot. You said you would leave. Just leave, you effing idiot.
No chance the biggest know-it-all in Letsrun history ever leaves this place.
So what. Prosecutors in NM charge someone every week for murder and they don't wait for close to a year. No NM prosecutor wants this case. Prosecutors don't like looking like fools in a court room. Prosecutors will Dismiss or will allow Baldwin to plea to misdemeanors.
A crime is alleged to have been committed. Someone is dead. It is NOT a matter of “so what.” Have you no humanity?
The rest of you are free to post emotionally. I call Balls & Strikes. Someone on this site needs to be sober & analytical.
