“Key takeaway: If Harvard were to select from just the top one-tenth of applicants ranked by academic record—which is in fact what Harvard most likely would do—then Asian Americans would be 51.52 percent, Whites 36.54, Hispanics 2.69 percent, blacks 0.76 percent.”
The Asians don’t care much any which way. Nothing can stop their rise. They already dominate the rank and file as well as C-suites in tech that’s the most powerful industry by far today.
Advocates who are truly concerned about AAPI admissions at Harvard would probably be trying to exclude personal ratings as a factor Harvard can consider, but instead these white conservative lawyers are trying to exclude racial background—by which they mean a Black racial background—as a factor Harvard can consider. To put this nonsense more starkly: After the conservatives win, Harvard will not be allowed to consider an applicant’s race but will be allowed to consider an applicant’s personal rating. The very process that we know is hurting AAPI applicants at Harvard will be allowed to continue, while the process that has nothing to do with AAPI students will be ruled unconstitutional. This is what happens when you let white conservatives carpetbag an issue of minority representation: You get a solution that is good for white people and useless for everybody else.
We get it! You have a victim complex related to your race and you don't believe you and other members of your race can compete without special privileges. Your low self-esteem causes you to believe that you won't be able to succeed based on the same standards as white people, because YOU believe you are inferior. This self-hatred is projected as resentment towards white people. What you want is a solution that is good for YOU (affirmative action) and useless for everybody else. Your seething screeds make this painfully obvious.
Where did he say he was a victim and felt inferior? He didn't say or imply that. He stated facts about the Affirmative Action case. Self hatred....only you said that. SMH...you had the nerve to even mention standards of white people....like that means a damn thing to non-whites. Only a racist person would say some complete ignorant stuff like that.
“Key takeaway: If Harvard were to select from just the top one-tenth of applicants ranked by academic record—which is in fact what Harvard most likely would do—then Asian Americans would be 51.52 percent, Whites 36.54, Hispanics 2.69 percent, blacks 0.76 percent.”
The Asians don’t care much any which way. Nothing can stop their rise. They already dominate the rank and file as well as C-suites in tech that’s the most powerful industry by far today.
In the North Carolina case, Patrick Strawbridge, the white attorney making the case on behalf of the AAPI students, barely even mentioned them. Strawbridge offered arguments about how racial preferences helped Black students get into UNC, but he said nothing about how eliminating those racial preferences would help AAPI students. Indeed, he couldn’t make such an argument, because none exists. Ryan Park, the solicitor general of North Carolina (whose parents come from South Korea), pointed out that UNC actually admits AAPI students at a higher rate than African American students, which he called a “peculiar result” for those who think that the university’s race-conscious admissions program benefits black kids to the determinant of AAPI kids. Neither Strawbridge nor any of the conservative justices on the Supreme Court had an answer for this. They just moved on like the raw facts didn’t matter.
Again, that has to do with race. Because this is a race based case.
"Black high-school seniors are one-tenth as likely to be in the top tenth of college applicants nationwide as nonblack applicants. The average black SAT score in 2022 was 926 on a 1600 point scale. The average Asian score was 1229 and the average white score was 1098."
"In a post-preference world, more black students, not fewer, will graduate in STEM fields since aspiring black STEM majors will attend schools where the teaching is pitched to their level of academic preparedness. The reconfiguration of the black college population would signify the destruction of educational opportunity only if elite colleges alone provide the potential for upward mobility. But if it is so aspiration-crushing for a black or Latino student to attend a third- or fourth-tier college, why should any student suffer so dire a fate?"
I had to attend a college that's barely ranked inside the top 20 because of affirmative action.
Advocates who are truly concerned about AAPI admissions at Harvard would probably be trying to exclude personal ratings as a factor Harvard can consider, but instead these white conservative lawyers are trying to exclude racial background—by which they mean a Black racial background—as a factor Harvard can consider. To put this nonsense more starkly: After the conservatives win, Harvard will not be allowed to consider an applicant’s race but will be allowed to consider an applicant’s personal rating. The very process that we know is hurting AAPI applicants at Harvard will be allowed to continue, while the process that has nothing to do with AAPI students will be ruled unconstitutional. This is what happens when you let white conservatives carpetbag an issue of minority representation: You get a solution that is good for white people and useless for everybody else.
The same group sued Harvard for just that. How did you not know this?
A group that claims Harvard puts quotas on Asian-American applicants contends the university scores them higher than students of other races on academics and extracurricular activities but ranks them lowest in a “personal” ca...
"The new study, by Raj Chetty and David Deming of Harvard and John Friedman of Brown, demonstrates that the country’s most qualified high school students are indeed disproportionately affluent. About 7 percent of the country’s very top students come from the top 1 percent of the income distribution. These students tend to have scored at least 1500 on the SAT (or 35 on the ACT), received top marks on Advanced Placement tests, earned almost all A’s in their high school classes, and often excelled in science fairs or other competitions. Perhaps the most surprising pattern involves so-called legacy students, those who attend the same college that their parents did. At the elite colleges that the researchers studied, legacy students had stronger academic qualifications on average than nonlegacy students. Similarly, graduates of private high schools had stronger academic records on average than graduates of public high schools or Catholic schools."
Legacies tend to be stronger than non-legacy students.
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wow..who would have thought you can game standardized test?!
"The new study, by Raj Chetty and David Deming of Harvard and John Friedman of Brown, demonstrates that the country’s most qualified high school students are indeed disproportionately affluent. About 7 percent of the country’s very top students come from the top 1 percent of the income distribution. These students tend to have scored at least 1500 on the SAT (or 35 on the ACT), received top marks on Advanced Placement tests, earned almost all A’s in their high school classes, and often excelled in science fairs or other competitions. Perhaps the most surprising pattern involves so-called legacy students, those who attend the same college that their parents did. At the elite colleges that the researchers studied, legacy students had stronger academic qualifications on average than nonlegacy students. Similarly, graduates of private high schools had stronger academic records on average than graduates of public high schools or Catholic schools."
Legacies tend to be stronger than non-legacy students.
Not surprising since they can pay for an army of $100+ per hour tutors to help them prep for tests and to help tutor them their whole lives. Color me unimpressed. Give me an 'uncoached' kis with lower but good scores any day who is more likely to sue their degree to do something meaningful other than continue to pursue ways of bring real change to their communities instead of shooting to earn gobs of $$ and maintain the advantages enjoyed by their ancestors for generations.
As a professor who does admission interviews and helps with President's Scholarship selection, one thing I will say is this:
The LAST thing we can trust these days is high school GPA, particularly from the top private schools.
People don't like it, but the externally administered tests (SAT, ACT, and AP exams, primarily) give us a more trustworthy analysis (even considering all their shortcomings). The high school teachers are under way too much pressure to help little Johnny get into whatever school and the grade inflation is so rampant that we have no idea what a GPA is worth any more (and this is more so at the private schools).
As a professor who does admission interviews and helps with President's Scholarship selection, one thing I will say is this:
The LAST thing we can trust these days is high school GPA, particularly from the top private schools.
People don't like it, but the externally administered tests (SAT, ACT, and AP exams, primarily) give us a more trustworthy analysis (even considering all their shortcomings). The high school teachers are under way too much pressure to help little Johnny get into whatever school and the grade inflation is so rampant that we have no idea what a GPA is worth any more (and this is more so at the private schools).
I'm on the other side of the problem you're raising, I'm a high school teacher of 30 years, but you are so right. The academic standards are slipping like crazy and while even at the beginning of my career it took a lot for a student to fail a grade and have to repeat, this is almost unheard of now. There is an unofficial policy or maybe just a general belief that we have to just keep pushing kids to the next grade and hope the truly disinterested kids drop out of their own accord, rather than hold anyone truly accountable. We teachers deserve some blame for that but the general policy comes from administration as well. But the never-fail-a-kid starting point, the problem is that if you're giving a kid who does F work, or no work at all, a C- so he can move up next year, you then in fairness have to give the kids who do C- work a B-, B work gets you an A, and actual A work that would get you a 4.0 before now can get you a 4.5. You couldn't go over 4.0 for GPA when I started but now my school actually lets people go beyond 4.0. Grade inflation, absolutely!
Saw a comment on a WSJ article about how colleges keep planning on discriminating that was too perfect to not share here. Instead of asking your race, they'd ask these questions instead:
1. Did you grow up with a father in your house?
2. Have you or a close family member been on food stamps or Medicaid?
3. Are your car's rims worth more than the car itself?
Saw a comment on a WSJ article about how colleges keep planning on discriminating that was too RACIST to not share here. Instead of asking your race, they'd ask these questions instead:
1. Did you grow up with a father in your house?
2. Have you or a close family member been on food stamps or Medicaid?
3. Are your car's rims worth more than the car itself?
Someone once asked me why the Olympic men’s 100 meter final naps is always all black,I replied it takes big balls to make the final.Some people have big balls,some are lacking,that’s why it’s called men’s final and not the nearly men’s final.There is a huge gap in masculinity quotient of different groups,that’s why some groups dominate major sports and some struggle.All you have to do is look the American sporting landscape college and pro,you’ll notice some are just superior males.
Roberts was too scared to go any further. It should have banned it 100% - now, DEI people are just writing about their race in the essays to get it across.
If the amount of blacks and Hispanics doesn't immediately drop to about 1 and 3% respectively at top colleges - which we all know it won't - colleges won't have followed it. These numbers are pulled from their own research, that shows it'd be about 50% Asian, 45% white, 5% other if nothing other than merit were considered
