This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
You just can't argue with Harambe and the other Religious Fundamentalist mRNA Vaxxers. This whole deal has changed their lives permanently, put irrational fear into their minds they likely will never shake. To cope, they are finding a religious way of dealing with it all by worshiping at the feet of the medical overlords. They can't be moved, they lack the intelligence to do so. Either through fear, embarrassment, or both, they'll never change their views that the biggest human lab experiment ever conducted can NOT be questioned.
I am not the one quivering in fear from the vaccine -- which has saved 20 million lives (and counting). I can do 7th grade math.
Over and over again this appeal to ignorance. Asserting a "ficticious" lives saved count, that is impossible to prove true, or false. You are the exact type of "expert" I expect gets paid by the government, you are 2nd tier, and your insecurities make you easily led as you strive to be one of the cool kids.
I have a vast research team, kiddo. We recently got together to discuss the data. To us it is clear: the vaccines are both safe and very effective (at preventing severe outcomes with COVID).
The minister said that senior leaders in the Opposition pressurised the Narendra Modi-led government to procure foreign-made vaccines during the coronavirus pandemic rather than choosing the home-bred vaccines.
yes, I do have a bias against a website of unverified, self reported affects.
Incorrect!
There are are 26 items (28 items required if in the military) to be filled out to report an adverse event- and it gets verifiied by either the medical facility and/or DHS.
Furthermore people don't know if a Vaccine caused their problem. They could say they got the vax and fell down the next day AND reported as an adverse effect. AND IT WOULD BE ACCEPTED. Only the entry is verified, not the claimed effect you twit.
also you missed these two items while looking at VAERS.
VAERS accepts reports of adverse events that occur following vaccination. Anyone, including Healthcare providers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public can submit reports to the system. While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness.
and
VAERS reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. Reports to VAERS can also be biased. As a result, there are limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.
I am not the one quivering in fear from the vaccine -- which has saved 20 million lives (and counting). I can do 7th grade math.
Over and over again this appeal to ignorance. Asserting a "ficticious" lives saved count, that is impossible to prove true, or false. You are the exact type of "expert" I expect gets paid by the government, you are 2nd tier, and your insecurities make you easily led as you strive to be one of the cool kids.
Biden Fixed Covid - Harambe 2021.
The "20 million lives saved" probably come from . One can find the data and computer code used to derive the estimate .
COVID-19 vaccination has substantially altered the course of the pandemic, saving tens of millions of lives globally. However, inadequate access to vaccines in low-income countries has limited the impact in these settings, re...
I point this out not in the hope that it is going to change the opinion of any of the entrenched thread participants, but to illustrate the enormous gap in rigor and credibility between mainstream medical science and most all of the anti-vax movement.
I could easily go to the VAERS site and say it gave me myocarditis
And you must provide the doctor's office and/or medical facility name, address & phone number, drug infomation- which must all be verified, etc. So, you can't just put up BS. In addition, the VAERS website makes it very clear, about posting false information:
Warning: Knowingly filing a false VAERS report with the intent to mislead the Department of Health and Human Services is a violation of Federal law (18 U.S. Code § 1001) punishable by fine and imprisonment.
I am not the one quivering in fear from the vaccine -- which has saved 20 million lives (and counting). I can do 7th grade math.
Over and over again this appeal to ignorance. Asserting a "ficticious" lives saved count, that is impossible to prove true, or false. You are the exact type of "expert" I expect gets paid by the government, you are 2nd tier, and your insecurities make you easily led as you strive to be one of the cool kids.
COVID-19 vaccination has substantially altered the course of the pandemic, saving tens of millions of lives globally. However, inadequate access to vaccines in low-income countries has limited the impact in these settings, re...
This estimate rose to 19·8 million (95% Crl 19·1–20·4) deaths from COVID-19 averted when we used excess deaths as an estimate of the true extent of the pandemic, representing a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19·8 million of 31·4 million) during the first year of COVID-19 vaccination.
I get this is upsetting because you are dumb and wish vaccination didn't work (and thus wish more people died of COVID? Weird). But generally it's a bad look to assert things as fabricated without even bothering to google.
I get this is upsetting because you are dumb and wish vaccination didn't work (and thus wish more people died of COVID? Weird). But generally it's a bad look to assert things as fabricated without even bothering to google.
Bro. Clearly they want nothing more than a conspiracy to be right. So they pick two,
One- the virus was a plan by the elite with China's help to reduce the population
Two- the vaccine was a plan by the elite with Western Gov'ts help to reduce the population.
For all his bluster, Jones has been saying a variation of this theme for going on 25 years. I'll bet he still talks about the bohemian grove
Over and over again this appeal to ignorance. Asserting a "ficticious" lives saved count, that is impossible to prove true, or false. You are the exact type of "expert" I expect gets paid by the government, you are 2nd tier, and your insecurities make you easily led as you strive to be one of the cool kids.
Biden Fixed Covid - Harambe 2021.
The "20 million lives saved" probably come from . One can find the data and computer code used to derive the estimate .
I point this out not in the hope that it is going to change the opinion of any of the entrenched thread participants, but to illustrate the enormous gap in rigor and credibility between mainstream medical science and most all of the anti-vax movement.
That's a feature, not a bug for antivaxxers. They think anecdotes and random sh!tposting and speculation about individuals dying is the gold standard of proof. It's regrettable that they slept through middle school, maybe it didn't have to be like this. At least we get some entertainment out of it!
I get this is upsetting because you are dumb and wish vaccination didn't work (and thus wish more people died of COVID? Weird). But generally it's a bad look to assert things as fabricated without even bothering to google.
Bro. Clearly they want nothing more than a conspiracy to be right. So they pick two,
One- the virus was a plan by the elite with China's help to reduce the population
Two- the vaccine was a plan by the elite with Western Gov'ts help to reduce the population.
For all his bluster, Jones has been saying a variation of this theme for going on 25 years. I'll bet he still talks about the bohemian grove
Unvaxxed me anticipating the illness and death Joe Biden said was gonna get me. He said that 400 days ago.
Still waiting.
"Vaccine" has been available for 767 days. I have taken ZERO doses.
I get this is upsetting because you are dumb and wish vaccination didn't work (and thus wish more people died of COVID? Weird). But generally it's a bad look to assert things as fabricated without even bothering to google.
Bro. Clearly they want nothing more than a conspiracy to be right. So they pick two,
One- the virus was a plan by the elite with China's help to reduce the population
Two- the vaccine was a plan by the elite with Western Gov'ts help to reduce the population.
For all his bluster, Jones has been saying a variation of this theme for going on 25 years. I'll bet he still talks about the bohemian grove
I've been to bohemian grove. Nice area. I never saw Bourla and Fauci scheming with Gates and Clinton, though.
Bro. Clearly they want nothing more than a conspiracy to be right. So they pick two,
One- the virus was a plan by the elite with China's help to reduce the population
Two- the vaccine was a plan by the elite with Western Gov'ts help to reduce the population.
For all his bluster, Jones has been saying a variation of this theme for going on 25 years. I'll bet he still talks about the bohemian grove
Unvaxxed me anticipating the illness and death Joe Biden said was gonna get me. He said that 400 days ago.
Still waiting.
"Vaccine" has been available for 767 days. I have taken ZERO doses.
Still waiting.
3 years of Covid madness.
Still waiting.
You are walking and bragging about it.
No one cares about a frail old man too afraid to do anything of note.
I'm happy you avoided the worst of it, it would've easily killed you.
also, learn what an anecdote is. I've had 2 doses and 2 boosters. I'm running more than ever at 53, setting PRs and haven't been sick in 3 years. That doesn't sway you.
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