Guelph Implodes

fred just simply needs help.

1. If you use the word creepy, you are not a man. Use direct terms.

2. A sociopath reads the vulnerabilities of those in his environment, and takes advantage.

3. Many people screwed up here, and took years to figure out what happened.

4. Why were the Guelph police not called right off the bat.

5. The true " facts' were only presented yesterday, by a reporter and a paper willing to put it on the line.

6. How can you help Dave's wife and children heal.

7. What is MG's path forward.

see what I mean? fred.....just....stop.

Fred, you spent half the thread going on about women being empowered and following their urges to sleep with their coaches and how that is an enlightened view. Now you are pretending to be a voice of reason. Get lost...creep.

fred wrote:

1. If you use the word creepy, you are not a man. Use direct terms.

2. A sociopath reads the vulnerabilities of those in his environment, and takes advantage.

3. Many people screwed up here, and took years to figure out what happened.

4. Why were the Guelph police not called right off the bat.

5. The true " facts' were only presented yesterday, by a reporter and a paper willing to put it on the line.

6. How can you help Dave's wife and children heal.

7. What is MG's path forward.

Creepy is a direct term. Also you are correct - I am not a man. It might shock you to know that women post here too.

Seems like a lot of people pretending they didn't know what happened and what was going on. As humans it's easy to convince ourselves we're not at fault and blame others. It's human nature...But really there's a lot of guilty parties. A lot of enables are lucky they're not mentioned in any damning articles. They will continue on with their lives normally but who knows what they could have really done. DST was enabled for over a decade thanks to complacent individuals who hid the truth.

-There is an "investigation" by the university and the Canadian Coaches Association into the behavior of DST. Some have suggested he (on behalf of the program) has acted aggressively and created an ugly environment for many athletes.

go away wrote:

Fred, you spent half the thread going on about women being empowered and following their urges to sleep with their coaches and how that is an enlightened view. Now you are pretending to be a voice of reason. Get lost...creep.

****** Deleted**** The info came out yesterday. Before that I was operating under zero factual information, and defending a person's charter rights.

If women want to have sex under conditions within the law, that's their business. Enlightened is a stupid use of a term. Women were screwing their brains out in the 1970's. You are just ignorant or a hick from the sticks.

Registered sport coaches do not operate only under conditions of the law. They are held to a different standard. You can look into the Athletics Ontario policies for more information and the case of sprint coach Randy Brookes.

Randy is no longer a registered coach with AO for having a sexual relationship with an athlete. She is an adult, by law, but it does not matter in coaching terms.

He can still coach independently, however.

He acts more and more like the Canadian rekrunner.

fred wrote:

Yes, I voluntarily chose to have sex with this man, because I was horny , and the Charter protected my rights as a woman.

You guys don't get it. You are still living in a previous century where women had no rights, and could not be assertive in expressing their desires.

Fred , you’re in your 70’s and posting this ? #emotionallySick

fred wrote:

Yes, I voluntarily chose to have sex with this man, because I was horny , and the Charter protected my rights as a woman.

You guys don't get it. You are still living in a previous century where women had no rights, and could not be assertive in expressing their desires.

Just dropping this here in case people need more info on why Fred is a nutter....Apparently his only issue is age of MB. If she had been 18 he’d be totally fine with what happened.

fred wrote:

So you don't agree that the female athlete could hold the power imbalance in this relationship given the male's proclivity towards sexual conquest.

Still old school, and failure mode.

More BS from Fred. Like trump’s, these quotes don’t age well.

[quote]jajajkak wrote:

So at this point we have:

Guelph (Dave Scott Thomas)

Ottawa Lions (Andy McInnis and Ken Porter)

Edmonton Olympic Club (Ken Porter)

Dave Case (from Sudbury)

University of Toronto (David Hay)

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WEJO- yes, I am saying this. She told me and several other people at her new school in 2005/ 2006 about what happened, and I know the top XC and track coaches at her new school both supported her and advocated that she and her father approach U of Guelph with this story. The Globe article does a good job of explaining this. I know Alistair Summerlee (Guelph President) and Tom Kendall (Athletic Director) heard the case--and for reasons unclear to me, sided with DST. Sadly, with no more than a slap on the wrist, DST went on to paint a picture of Megan as a "crazy stalker". I can state categorically that several Guelph (and Speed River) runners at the time spread this story--as I heard it over and over again. I won't name names, but they know who they are. (What is not clear is what DST told them, and why they felt so emboldened to trash her and believe their coach so wholeheartedly. )

swooshster wrote:

fred wrote:

Yes, I voluntarily chose to have sex with this man, because I was horny , and the Charter protected my rights as a woman.

You guys don't get it. You are still living in a previous century where women had no rights, and could not be assertive in expressing their desires.

Fred , you’re in your 70’s and posting this ? #emotionallySick

Merely, defending women's rights and the charter. Age has nothing to do with it. If you can not see that you are a simpleton locked in a surface existence.

fred wrote:

swooshster wrote:

Fred , you’re in your 70’s and posting this ? #emotionallySick

Merely, defending women's rights and the charter. Age has nothing to do with it. If you can not see that you are a simpleton locked in a surface existence.

I wasn’t inviting you for a conversation u creepy old Fck. I was making a statement.

I’m a caregiver. I’m afraid fred is one of these compulsive cataloguers & diarists who keep infinite records of every moment in their existence. And detailed analysis as well, obviously.

Normally such people are not such a danger to others, but every case is unique.

Also, I want to make it clear that my username refers to DST, not Fred (I don't think he is sick, I just think he is very very stubborn and used to "winning" arguments). With the new Letsrun rules I couldn't change it.