This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Dr. Harriet “The SkepDoc” Hall, an author of a science medicine blog slamming the anti-vaxxers and critic of alternative medicine, died suddenly in her sleep last week. Dr. Hall is a retired Air Force physician and flight sur...
A 2-year-old child died suddenly after receiving both the Covid vaccine and the annual flu vaccine, according to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), a national early warning system to detect possible safety pr...
The people have had enough. At least six BBC buildings across the UK were covered with placards and photos of people who died from the COVID vaccine. The rally called the “media is the virus” was held on Saturday, January 7th...
My named user was blocked due to too many whining snowflakes like you crying about getting their feewings hurt by something I wrote. What’s the point of being registered then? You liberal gets what you want and still complain.
Covid, specifically the delta variant wave, disproportionately killed younger, mostly unvaccinated persons during Q3 2021. Which would be weird if broad vaccine mandates were an actual thing. They were not.
Covid, specifically the delta variant wave, disproportionately killed younger, mostly unvaccinated persons during Q3 2021. Which would be weird if broad vaccine mandates were an actual thing. They were not.
Yup - this really skewers the anti-vax and COVID-denier sects. Delta was brutal the population that escaped the first waves due to age. There were many months in 2021 and early 2022 where COVID was the #1 killer of 35-45 age group. Shocking giving the initial mortality data in early 2020.
Yup - this really skewers the anti-vax and COVID-denier sects. Delta was brutal the population that escaped the first waves due to age. There were many months in 2021 and early 2022 where COVID was the #1 killer of 35-45 age group. Shocking giving the initial mortality data in early 2020.
Reminiscing on your glory days while people are dropping from the vaccine left and right in the present. Gotta love it!
There were increases in a lot of death categories but the claim above was attributing these to vaccine mandates. That claim does not withstand critical scrutiny.
This is the fundamental problem with this thread. We could all have a sensible discussion about how covid lead to a real increase in problems with drugs, alcohol, crime, and so forth if the crap posters that have been hyperventilating about massive mortality attributable to vaccination would get their heads out of their asses.
There were increases in a lot of death categories but the claim above was attributing these to vaccine mandates. That claim does not withstand critical scrutiny.
This is the fundamental problem with this thread. We could all have a sensible discussion about how covid lead to a real increase in problems with drugs, alcohol, crime, and so forth if the crap posters that have been hyperventilating about massive mortality attributable to vaccination would get their heads out of their asses.
I'm not hopeful.
And jobs lost due to vaccine mandates and lockdowns were not the sole cause of the increase in problems with drugs, alcohol, crime, and so forth?
There were increases in a lot of death categories but the claim above was attributing these to vaccine mandates. That claim does not withstand critical scrutiny.
This is the fundamental problem with this thread. We could all have a sensible discussion about how covid lead to a real increase in problems with drugs, alcohol, crime, and so forth if the crap posters that have been hyperventilating about massive mortality attributable to vaccination would get their heads out of their asses.
I'm not hopeful.
And jobs lost due to vaccine mandates and lockdowns were not the sole cause of the increase in problems with drugs, alcohol, crime, and so forth?
And have the vaxxes not caused a lot of health issues and even deaths?
There were increases in a lot of death categories but the claim above was attributing these to vaccine mandates. That claim does not withstand critical scrutiny.
This is the fundamental problem with this thread. We could all have a sensible discussion about how covid lead to a real increase in problems with drugs, alcohol, crime, and so forth if the crap posters that have been hyperventilating about massive mortality attributable to vaccination would get their heads out of their asses.
I'm not hopeful.
And jobs lost due to vaccine mandates and lockdowns were not the sole cause of the increase in problems with drugs, alcohol, crime, and so forth?
There were increases in a lot of death categories but the claim above was attributing these to vaccine mandates. That claim does not withstand critical scrutiny.
This is the fundamental problem with this thread. We could all have a sensible discussion about how covid lead to a real increase in problems with drugs, alcohol, crime, and so forth if the crap posters that have been hyperventilating about massive mortality attributable to vaccination would get their heads out of their asses.
I'm not hopeful.
I’m a bit surprised you seem to be coming to this realization just now. It’s been clear antivaxxers have been arguing in bad faith for a few years now; narcissism and owning the libs is what guides them, not honest debate and a willingness to learn
I’m a bit surprised you seem to be coming to this realization just now. It’s been clear antivaxxers have been arguing in bad faith for a few years now; narcissism and owning the libs is what guides them, not honest debate and a willingness to learn
There were increases in a lot of death categories but the claim above was attributing these to vaccine mandates. That claim does not withstand critical scrutiny.
This is the fundamental problem with this thread. We could all have a sensible discussion about how covid lead to a real increase in problems with drugs, alcohol, crime, and so forth if the crap posters that have been hyperventilating about massive mortality attributable to vaccination would get their heads out of their asses.
I'm not hopeful.
I’m a bit surprised you seem to be coming to this realization just now. It’s been clear antivaxxers have been arguing in bad faith for a few years now; narcissism and owning the libs is what guides them, not honest debate and a willingness to learn
Not a new realization. Just venting about going in circles on the same stupid stuff when there are real policy challenges that are lost in the noise.
I’m a bit surprised you seem to be coming to this realization just now. It’s been clear antivaxxers have been arguing in bad faith for a few years now; narcissism and owning the libs is what guides them, not honest debate and a willingness to learn
I learn whenever a vaccinated person dies.
Whenever a young healthy vaxxed person dies due to sudden death?
The sheer number of young, healthy adults dying "suddenly" has become so well-known now, that even the corporate media can no longer ignore these record number of deaths occurring among the working class ages between 18-years...
Just a coincidence all these things soared as the lockdowns and mandates got implemented?
“Mandates” has zero effect on employment. We are above pre COVID employment levels now. The initial lockdown employment shock was mitigated very quickly compared to other crises. Unsure what you wanted done. Low effort troll.
I’m a bit surprised you seem to be coming to this realization just now. It’s been clear antivaxxers have been arguing in bad faith for a few years now; narcissism and owning the libs is what guides them, not honest debate and a willingness to learn
It's interesting that I think almost the EXACT same as you, but the exact opposite direction! I was / and in many way still am a lib (at least if you go with older definitions of "liberal"), so I "owning the libs" was never an interest for me. A lot of the "science" and reporting was questionable from the onset which absolutely destroyed a lot of folks credibility. It appears to me that a lot of people love being told what to do when there is a challenging situation. They want everyone else to be in lockstep as well. Then, when it turns out that things may not have been as they were originally presented afterall, they decide to argue in bad faith and are not willing to have honest debate and a willingness to learn.