Sprintgeezer wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
Yes and nothing will come of it because the IAAF is either corrupt or incompetent.
Or both.
Or that this is a non-story.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
Yes and nothing will come of it because the IAAF is either corrupt or incompetent.
Or both.
Or that this is a non-story.
El Keniano wrote:
Sprintgeezer wrote:
Or both.
Or that this is a non-story.
60 Kenyans busted in 5 years says you are probably wrong.
Armstronglivs wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Or that this is a non-story.
60 Kenyans busted in 5 years says you are probably wrong.
Drop in the bucket for Kenya.
Armstronglivs wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Or that this is a non-story.
60 Kenyans busted in 5 years says you are probably wrong.
Plus a 17 yr old female middle-distance runner just busted for roids!
El Keniano wrote:
Drop in the bucket for Kenya.
Yes. With that many Olympic champions and World Record holders, who cares about a few drug cheats among them like Sumgong and Kiprop and Kiptum. Unknown also-rans. Drop in the bucket.
casual obsever wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Drop in the bucket for Kenya.
Yes. With that many Olympic champions and World Record holders, who cares about a few drug cheats among them like Sumgong and Kiprop and Kiptum. Unknown also-rans. Drop in the bucket.
"Many" Olympic champions = Kiprop and Sumgong.
World Record Holders = Kiptum.
But don't let that stop you from Letsrun hyperbole. And the fact remains: they were caught! Something the UK/US can't manage even though events like Salazar's ban have proved doping is rampant, just all that more sophisticated.
Read again what I wrote.
El Keniano wrote:
casual obsever wrote:
Yes. With that many Olympic champions and World Record holders, who cares about a few drug cheats among them like Sumgong and Kiprop and Kiptum. Unknown also-rans. Drop in the bucket.
"Many" Olympic champions = Kiprop and Sumgong.
World Record Holders = Kiptum.
But don't let that stop you from Letsrun hyperbole. And the fact remains: they were caught! Something the UK/US can't manage even though events like Salazar's ban have proved doping is rampant, just all that more sophisticated.
You forgot Jebet - former WR holder and gold medalist at Rio.
Tell it like it is wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
"Many" Olympic champions = Kiprop and Sumgong.
World Record Holders = Kiptum.
But don't let that stop you from Letsrun hyperbole. And the fact remains: they were caught! Something the UK/US can't manage even though events like Salazar's ban have proved doping is rampant, just all that more sophisticated.
You forgot Jebet - former WR holder and gold medalist at Rio.
Bahrain. Unless you're ready for us to claim Paul Chelimo now?
El Keniano wrote:
Tell it like it is wrote:
You forgot Jebet - former WR holder and gold medalist at Rio.
Bahrain. Unless you're ready for us to claim Paul Chelimo now?
Claim him if you want - does he do any training in Kenya? Jeptoo, Kirwa, etc., are representing Bahrain but also devoted a considerable amount of time throughout the year training in Kenya. That's probably where they were also getting their dope from. So, though they will "officially" go down as Baharian dopers bur they're Kenyans - not Arabs. ?
Tell it like it is wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Bahrain. Unless you're ready for us to claim Paul Chelimo now?
Claim him if you want - does he do any training in Kenya? Jeptoo, Kirwa, etc., are representing Bahrain but also devoted a considerable amount of time throughout the year training in Kenya. That's probably where they were also getting their dope from. So, though they will "officially" go down as Baharian dopers bur they're Kenyans - not Arabs. ?
Do you want another hair to split?
Where is Steve Cram's crybaby writeup that pitifully excuses the missing of tests and anti-doping whereabouts violations?
Wait, here it is:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/nov/27/athletics.comment
In this case , he forgives Britain's World Champion obvious doper golden girl. As if it's hard enough to catch an athlete out, but these days we have to accept this scapegoated hypocritical drivel from "saviours and protectors of clean sport". What a bloody joke.
El Keniano wrote:
Tell it like it is wrote:
Claim him if you want - does he do any training in Kenya? Jeptoo, Kirwa, etc., are representing Bahrain but also devoted a considerable amount of time throughout the year training in Kenya. That's probably where they were also getting their dope from. So, though they will "officially" go down as Baharian dopers bur they're Kenyans - not Arabs. ?
Do you want another hair to split?
I doubt the FBI were able to bust as many mafia hoods as the authorities have been able to catch Kenyan drug cheats. But the disease is much the same. Those caught only hint at the wider corruption.
Armstronglivs wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Do you want another hair to split?
I doubt the FBI were able to bust as many mafia hoods as the authorities have been able to catch Kenyan drug cheats. But the disease is much the same. Those caught only hint at the wider corruption.
By your logic, there are no dopers in US/UK because none get caught. Do me a favour.
El Keniano wrote:
Tell it like it is wrote:
You forgot Jebet - former WR holder and gold medalist at Rio.
Bahrain. Unless you're ready for us to claim Paul Chelimo now?
Has Ruth Jebet ever been to Bahrain?
Subway Surfers wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Bahrain. Unless you're ready for us to claim Paul Chelimo now?
Has Ruth Jebet ever been to Bahrain?
I want to know
Have you ever seen Bahrain?
I want to know
Have you ever seen Bahrain?
kyoto wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
Has Ruth Jebet ever been to Bahrain?
I want to know
Have you ever seen Bahrain?
I want to know
Have you ever seen Bahrain?
Coming down on a sunny day.
Two can play at that game. As for my question, we all know the obvious answer, Jebet spent sweet jack all time in Bahrain, she was 100% Kenyan.
El Keniano wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
I doubt the FBI were able to bust as many mafia hoods as the authorities have been able to catch Kenyan drug cheats. But the disease is much the same. Those caught only hint at the wider corruption.
By your logic, there are no dopers in US/UK because none get caught. Do me a favour.
That isn't the logic. The numbers caught are a fraction of those doping. Proportionately, the Kenyans are right up there. There is doping in other countries, like the US and the UK, but they are having trouble keeping up with the Kenyans in that particular race.
El Keniano wrote:
By your logic, there are no dopers in US/UK because none get caught. Do me a favour.
Remember when Kenyans were never tested rather than rarely tested?
That was your explanation for the lack of positive tests.
That's where the whole Renato and friends 'Kenyans are too happy, smiling, virtuous, devout, love their mother too much to ever think about doping' thing that you people lapped up came from.
Subway Surfers wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Source? Jack Tuwei has the numbers. Kenyans are more tested than anyone else. You're just a blowhard on a message board.
I trust absolutely zero that comes out of Kenyan officialdom. Kenyans were tested 1,000 times in 2017, but had 2,000 classified 'elite' athletes, so yes the most tested country, 0.5 times per annum per athlete. All the top 20 male tennis players were tested at least 20 times each last year. And remember, it isn't proper testing if the athlete is given 24 hour notice of a random test.
+1
El K claims that the reason so may Kenyans get busted is because 'they get tested the most', and 'they have the most elite athletes'. Actually, the two things together mean that each individual athlete gets tested the least.
Karsten Warholm was tested 16 times in 2019. The average Kenyan elite 0.5 times, and a tea money text warning beforehand with it.