Shayla has done a terrible job with those kids,
Shayla has done a terrible job with those kids,
+1Kingme wrote:
This could go down as the least most desirable job in Power 5 history.
I don't know about that.
The following are terrible; Oregon State, Utah, Rutgers, Northwestern, Boston College
I wouldn't say that Shayla has done a terrible job with the kids. I mean she did just recently bring more National qualifiers to cross-country than any other head coach in school history. I really have nothing else to say about that..... really that's pretty much it. I mean I could say..... With limited resources, limited responsibilities she single-handedly brought more people to Nationals than any other head coach in the history of California Berkeley. But we should really give tony credit...
Duckies419 wrote:
WAT?! wrote:
In a conference with Stanford, Colorado, Oregon, and Washington, along with a slew of wannabe distance powerhouses you think Cal should go all in on distance? The Bay Area is loaded with talent in all areas. Look was Curtis Taylor did when he was around. Cal should go with whatever gives them the best shot at placing top third of the conference and a shot to win every couple of years.
This is the truth. Cal should go with Curtis Taylor. Cal graduate(?), success with local kids at laney college, National level success at oregon. Believe he still owns a home in the Bay Area.
Leaving Oregon for Cal would be a huge step down in pay, facilities, and athletic support.
Bethan Knights and Brie Oakely two of the best High School 3200 meter runners ever and look at them now. The guys outside of a 5t year senior are....well look at the pac 12 cc standings year after year. Shayla .......how did your teams xc season go this year? How many kids had stress fractures.
Death, taxes and CALZ ducking in XC....that's life
Baladsar wrote:
Boycott blues wrote:
Pardon my ignorance, but is this the same Tony Sandoval who won the 1980 Trials marathon?
I thought so too but apparently, this is the Marathoner Sandoval
https://corunninghalloffame.com/tag/anthony-sandoval/And this is the coach Sandoval
https://calbears.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1352
Ha, good research. I thought that coach sure didn't look like the marathoner Tony Sandoval I remember.
Does anyone know how much the director at Cal got and will be offered? A search of Sandoval's salary history is weird. This is what is posted:
2004 asst coach $67,000
2005 asst coach $62,000
2006 asst coach $61,000
2007 head coach $102,000
2008 head coach $122,000
2009 head coach $105,000
2010 head coach $103,000
2011 head coach $109,000
2012 head coach $105,000
2013 head coach $106,000
These are base salaries plus bonus money. Please tell me there was more salary for Sandoval than this, as the Oakland area housing prices and the commute times (to affordable housing) are prohibitive. Compare this to Florida's salaries and cost of living!
In 2017 he earned $115,002.00, plus $6,000 in bonus pay, likely from XC qualifying for nationals or good team grades. He also received $30,083.00. Giving him a total compensation of $151,085.00.
Still very low for a Pac 12 coach especially with being in the bay area. The next coach will probably start at that range, but they'll need to go higher if they want someone who is proven and can turn that program around.
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... if they want someone who is proven and can turn that program around.
I don't think they care, honestly. Track at Cal is really just to check a box. As long as a few kids do well enough to allow for some fluffy headlines, that's all they need from their team.
It's a bit ironic considering how often they've fired various assistants.
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In 2017 he earned $115,002.00, plus $6,000 in bonus pay, likely from XC qualifying for nationals or good team grades. He also received $30,083.00. Giving him a total compensation of $151,085.00.
Still very low for a Pac 12 coach especially with being in the bay area. The next coach will probably start at that range, but they'll need to go higher if they want someone who is proven and can turn that program around.
Where are you getting the $30,083? Maybe that was donor supplentation? Either way having competed for the program the 1st thing they need to do is find a way to fund more scholarships so they have the total, get their budget funding AT LEAST up to utah & oregon state levels & find a way to pay assists more than 40-50 a year. If this new coach wants to make the program competitive (bc the school doesn’t care) their going to have to be an extension of the development department.
Bay Area Alum wrote:
1st thing they need to do is find a way to fund more scholarships so they have the total, get their budget funding AT LEAST up to utah & oregon state levels & find a way to pay assists more than 40-50 a year. If this new coach wants to make the program competitive (bc the school doesn’t care) their going to have to be an extension of the development department.
1. The AD has to want to make the program competitive. Do you really think the head coaches have a substantial influence how well a program is scholarshipped? Do you think there is a head coach out there who does not want/request full scholarshipping? Most programs at schools with a football team (up to 100 men's scholarships) are scrambling to allocate enough women's scholarships across the Olympic sports programs to balance out those football scholarships. TFXC allows three seasons of sports with minimal overhead for "equipment" and facilities for distance running females. ADs like women's xc, indoor tf, and outdoor tf because they economically take care of Title IX. Gymnastics, in comparison, has been dropped by most universities because the overhead for equipment, gym time and insurance. TFXC has been about warm bodies for Cal, that's it.
2. Cal is ambivalent at best about its athletics, and resents supporting their sports at worst. (see 2009). Stanford and UCLA, the other intellectual universities in California, both have comparatively great pride in their athletic programs. The current student body, alumni, and faculty will need to embrace sports - at least a little - in order for any AD to even attempt to beef up the programs, let alone ever get to a PAC-12 competitive level. This is no mystery to the AD or the coaches, of course. The new AD is actually working to change the culture of sports on campus at Cal. Want Cal to perform better at sports? Attend the football games.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/collegesports/article/3-months-in-new-Cal-AD-Jim-Knowlton-working-on-13169871.phpFormer Sacto Bear wrote:
Gipson would seem to be next based of his time there and title (and he's black...just sayin') but the kids despise him, alums think he is a clown and I dont think the admin respects him. That and he doesn't want them digging too far into his past around Sacramento and all the jobs hes been fired from. Or checking to see whether he actually graduated from Air Force or not from a new AD who came from the academy and has a military background ha!
I visited there one time & the team/my host said Gibson didn't coach Ashtin Davis or Ray Stewert, but they went home to be coached by there former coaches. Anyone know if that's still the same with the guy who was visiting other schools still the weekend before he started there, Jasheer?
Ladies & gentleman, Cal just hired a woman:
"It's a culture rife with daily sexual harassment." - Current female Cal athletic department employees.
Has the Cal job been posted yet?
Interested101 wrote:
Has the Cal job been posted yet?
Not sure but looking at last weekends results for many of the sprinters and distance runners, sheesh. I wonder if those kids realize how many of them are going to get cut if an outside hire is made?
Pretty strong hire coming to campus Sunday. If they’re looking at it, the salary must be right.
I take seriously the issue of women being harassed, and football is not a favorite of mine BUT I watched the interview with Paige Cornelius and wanted to vomit. This is why sexual harassment is not taken seriously by men. So she showed up drunk and went into the office with a volunteer football coach who was supposedly harassing her, and she doesn't remember much and then on another occasion she went into the volunteer football coaches hotel room and laid down on the bed, and was upset that he started to take his clothes off so she cried. Come on.
There's a couple of really good assistants there right now. And no not the sprints coach. Wonder if the administration is talking to them and if not what's going to happen there. Seems like it would be a big waste of talent if they lost those coaches. Oh wait it's Cal...
So many mixed messages around Tony and the Cal program. If he has been so checked out, how come all these wonderful assistants haven’t been crushing things. Why hasn’t all this talent developed? These talented kids chose Cal over Stanford. Imagine some good coach with a ton of energy got in there?
And regarding salary, I am sure there will be a jump up. Tony probably got into the housing market and had it explode so he didn’t need to press on salary.
Or else it goes wrote:
Pretty strong hire coming to campus Sunday. If they’re looking at it, the salary must be right.
Oh you mean the guy they fired 6 years ago & has been fired from every coaching job he's had? Of course the price is right, he's probably about to get fired from his current "coaching" job.