+1 finally a proper explaination
+1 finally a proper explaination
Edumacashun wrote:
What’s sad is that people on this thread can’t even successful demonstrate the fact that the Earth is spherical.
Our education system is failing us.
Glad you showed up. Please explain it to us in ways that will shut the flat earthers up for good.
not as smart as you wrote:
Edumacashun wrote:
What’s sad is that people on this thread can’t even successful demonstrate the fact that the Earth is spherical.
Our education system is failing us.
Glad you showed up. Please explain it to us in ways that will shut the flat earthers up for good.
I think They grow there own trees, don't they? explained it well.
A few questions to take a legit stab at the $10k prize here - everything else has been anecdotal , not that I've read through everything. Mathematically this really shouldn't be too hard - but I'll have to sit down for a bit to really outline something with context in a way that would make sense to someone not in a mathematical field.
Questions:
1. Do flat earthers accept basic mathematical principals i.e. basic calculus, concept of "zero"?
2. I think I saw something about questioning gravity - is that true? This can be calculated fairly simply.
3.What laws of physics are accepted by flat earthers? Here's a few to choose from. None of them are based on the earth being flat so if we can agree on these we can have a valid discourse on your questions:
A summary of Newton's laws of motion
A. An object in motion or at rest will stay at rest or in motion unless acted upon by an outside force
B. Velocity of an object changes when subjected to an outside force. F=mass*acceleration
C. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. F=F
1st law of thermodynamics: Conservation of Energy, states that energy cannot be created or destroyed in an isolated system.
2nd law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system always increases.
3rd law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of a system approaches a constant value as the temperature approaches absolute zero.
A lighthouse sends a beam of light up to 40 miles out to sea. This could only happen on a flat ocean. If the ocean curved, the light would be hidden behind a hill of water.
Poor example flat earther (and you're clearly no sailor).
The only way you're going to see a the vast majority of lighthouse beams of light at 40 miles is by USING THE CLOUDS . You don't see the LIGHT HOUSE lamp directly at 40 miles. Not even if there are perfectly calm, seas. -smh
Look at the Navy. Even today, navy sailors will use signal lamps (mounted on the bridge wing) to talk to other navy ships over the horizon. They do this by bouncing light off off the clouds. A bridge wing that sits about 90ft above the water has the horizon somehwere in the neighborhood of 12mi. Most lamps use incredibly powerful xeon bulbs. Even at a mere 15mi, you're not going to see the light w/o using the clouds. This is due to the CURVATURE of the earth.
You also are not accounting for the refraction of light. Here's an experiment for you. Lock yourself in a dark room, with a single light source located at one wall aimed horizontally across the room at the opposite wall. To eliminate variables further make sure everything else is coated in non-reflective, even light absorbing material. You could even use a laser. Then put your hand or a stick or something one inch away from the wall and note how crisp the shadow is, now move it towards the single light source and watch the shadow get less and less defined. You've discovred refraction! The nature of light (described in a particle manner - "photons") to be redirected by interacting with matter.
Flat earth belief and fake moon landing belief is their religion. Arguing with religious zealots is pointless.
Richard MF Feynman wrote:
A few questions to take a legit stab at the $10k prize here - everything else has been anecdotal , not that I've read through everything. Mathematically this really shouldn't be too hard - but I'll have to sit down for a bit to really outline something with context in a way that would make sense to someone not in a mathematical field.
Questions:
1. Do flat earthers accept basic mathematical principals i.e. basic calculus, concept of "zero"?
2. I think I saw something about questioning gravity - is that true? This can be calculated fairly simply.
3.What laws of physics are accepted by flat earthers? Here's a few to choose from. None of them are based on the earth being flat so if we can agree on these we can have a valid discourse on your questions:
A summary of Newton's laws of motion
A. An object in motion or at rest will stay at rest or in motion unless acted upon by an outside force
B. Velocity of an object changes when subjected to an outside force. F=mass*acceleration
C. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. F=F
1st law of thermodynamics: Conservation of Energy, states that energy cannot be created or destroyed in an isolated system.
2nd law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system always increases.
3rd law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of a system approaches a constant value as the temperature approaches absolute zero.
Flat Earthers rule! ?
https://youtu.be/1gHbwT_R9t0As the only living descendent of Eratosthenes, I am here to collect $10,000.
https://www.windows2universe.org/citizen_science/myw/w2u_eratosthenes_calc_earth_size.html
Got it wrong there wrote:
Jimmy Chonga wrote:
And anti-vaxxers are like the liberal version of flat-earthers.
Anti-vaxxers are not liberal, they are part of the anti-science movement which is all part of the alt-right/trump crowd of mouth breathers who cry “fake news” when confronted with facts.
Well thanks for setting me straight. I thought they were more like the anti-science, anti-language folks who describe direct abortion as "safe" when it is intentionally fatal and drugs, devices and interventions that poison or monkey-wrench the physiology or anatomy of healthy women as "health care" as if fertility and pregnancy were diseases.
Only Living Descendent of Eratosthenes wrote:
As the only living descendent of Eratosthenes, I am here to collect $10,000.
https://www.windows2universe.org/citizen_science/myw/w2u_eratosthenes_calc_earth_size.html
You are NOT the only living descendent of Eratosthenes!. Hell, you are not even Eratosthenes himself!
Nice try, Einstein!
duh2 wrote:
Legit question wrote:
The only satellites you see are on Google images and appear as CGI/cartoons. "We know satellites and people go around the world...blah, blah...." You are not using critical thinking and readily accept the indoctrination since pre-school. There has never been a circumnavigation from North Pole to South Pole. If the Van Allen radiation belts are not dangerous, then why have we not returned to the Moon? Why does NASA admit that we cannot go beyond low earth orbit? Why does the horizon rise up to eye level no matter how much altitude you get? Bodies of water do not curve. We never went to the Moon.
This is literally a medely of phrases that the indocrinated sheeple conspiracy theorists parrot word for word every time they get to speak. "Critical thinking", Van Allen belt (what's that got to do with a flat earth?), NASA admits this or that, horizon rises up to eye level whatever the altitude. I've heard those phrases literally word for word on dozens of youtube videos.
You're an easily-led, manipulated puppet controlled by the likes of Alex Jones for their own financial gain, yet hilariously, you've been led to believe in your gullibility that that applies to everyone else, not to you. You're so owned. Unless you're a troll of course, in which case 3/10.
Tell me why half the world is in day and half is in night, if all countries are on a flat plane. Go on.
I have a Van Allen belt (don't worry, vegans, it's not leather or any other animal product) and a matching shirt.
I also have an Occam's razor and some menthol shaving cream.
aging wrote:
geosciencesguy wrote:
Oblate Spheroid FTW. Earth ain't round.
This - not a ball or sphere. The earth is egg shaped.
So a football isn't a ball?
Legit question wrote:
NO PART OF A CIRCLE CAN BE FLAT. FACT. Train tracks are manufactured straight and laid flat and do not curve. Explain how this works on a ball.
Railroads do curve to transition from positive to negative slopes. Explain how this works. Or are hills flat too?
try making sense wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
there are no straight lines on Earth that don't intersect the equator. This was proven during the Age of Exploration, when the Equator was discovered and then gotten sick of as the explorers kept running into it no matter which direction they went.
Umm what?
Look up elliptical geometry. If you travel in a straight line on Earth, you WILL cross the equator eventually.
This drove the explorers nuts when they kept ending up there, which led to the crazy ceremonies modern navies have when they cross it.
Bad Wigins wrote:
try making sense wrote:
Umm what?
Look up elliptical geometry. If you travel in a straight line on Earth, you WILL cross the equator eventually.
This drove the explorers nuts when they kept ending up there, which led to the crazy ceremonies modern navies have when they cross it.
This got me thinking of Bekele. He is literally beside the equator in Ethiopia.
$100,000 right now, to anyone who shows me a photo of the edge of the flat earth, or firmament, or place where the oceans are spilling off into space, whatever.
FFF wrote:
$100,000 right now, to anyone who shows me a photo of the edge of the flat earth, or firmament, or place where the oceans are spilling off into space, whatever.
Well there know-it-all, I just drove from Boston to LA and it was all flat to me. And I could see hundreds of miles straight ahead in good ole Kansas (no curvature detected).
Flat Earthers rule dude! ?♠️?
You can't see hundreds of miles in "flat" Kansas. Try riding a bike across it.
FFF wrote:
You can't see hundreds of miles in "flat" Kansas. Try riding a bike across it.
I've done it several times as part of my triathlon training. I just can't see any curvature of the landscape whatsoever. I think we've all been taken for suckers being told the Earth is round! ☹