Not sure why this thread got bumped but more HS & college athletes are running sub-4. It's a nice, round, number. Women's times don't get treated the same way. That shouldn't be so hard to point out.
Are they just a bunch of 21 year olds blogging about blue jean miles from their parents basement? Why do they exist? They can't be making any money with this garbage.
They aren't making money as they have no ads.
I too am curious as to what the end game is.
You are at some of the same meets as they are. Why don't you ask them?
The other day NYRR only paid $900 to a 1st place finisher.
Dyestat has always used amatuer writers, snapshooters, and vloggers.
30 years ago NBA, MLB, NFL authorized hobbyists to use self-finance DSLR "machine-gun" camera photography which produced 100,000 of pictures per match. By 2020 it drove down photo prices to single $1 digits per image costs. The hobbyists labored all night for picks 100-200 per match for $500 only. Naturally they love the NBA, dont we all! The big plus is the pro leagues don't have to buy the cameras, the camera clubs have their own, and volunteer crews to install and maintain.
Nike has to keep up with a fast chaning world. Nike deploying generative AI. As a result USATF has fired most of the Communications Staff we all loved to work with for ages and ages and ages. Nike will soon shutter Citius, RS, Competitor, PDX, and so on.
Sorry to hear about USATF closing down it's media operations. Too bad Flyover States like Indiana and Oregon always take the brunt of the damage from China based Titans like Nike. years ago the Oregonian, Register-Guard, and other state newspapers across the entire Northwestern USA, fired staff sports employees in favor of free social media volunteers.
I chatted with some of them at USAs. My impression is that it's a hobby, they all have other jobs
What are their real jobs? I was interested in knowing this
Same hobby for elite runners as well as Citius, NCAA media, etc ... Arcadia media ... Flotrack ... too. The parents pay their bills. Hollywood Pro Rates are non-existent. We'll never have an NBA Minimum $950,000/yr or NFL/MLB Minimum $750,000/yr unless we're owned by Hollywood TV.
Does anyone know how they make enough money to pay for all of their photographers/videographers? They run some ads here and there on Podcast but damn, their expenses must be so high. It's hard to understand how they profit.
Looks like the crazy photog guy who always starts threads about photogs not getting paid, anything and everything LA, and some really crazy stuff I won't get into, bumped this thread.
He's probably had 5 different post in it as well. The bigger question may be why the hell he posts this stuff EVERY single day. But I'll leave it up for now. We should start another thread on him.
Does anyone know how they make enough money to pay for all of their photographers/videographers? They run some ads here and there on Podcast but damn, their expenses must be so high. It's hard to understand how they profit.
Looks like the crazy photog guy who always starts threads about photogs not getting paid, anything and everything LA, and some really crazy stuff I won't get into, bumped this thread.
He's probably had 5 different post in it as well. The bigger question may be why the hell he posts this stuff EVERY single day. But I'll leave it up for now. We should start another thread on him.
Curious what's with the lack of Citius coverage of the Nike Cross Nationals this past weekend (especially compared to all the coverage you guys gave to New Balance Nationals). I understand that you guys had someone at New Balance live (and maybe not at Nike), and that's fine; you can't have people everywhere all at the same time.
But what happened at Nike this past weekend was probably the biggest race of the high school track season in the Boys Mile; two twins who have been hyped since XC and are both Stanford commits going up against two Oregon commits who have taken center stage during track season and also added some playful banter heading into the race. The race had all the features of a great sports story going in and then to top it all off the race itself was incredible, with Birnbaum coming from the back of the pack to outkick Leo at the finish. I haven't followed the high school or college scene too closely recently but I'm personally now super stoked to watch these guys go at it in college over the next several years; it seems like exactly the kind of rivalry this sport needs.
But when I looked for Citius coverage of this seemingly great story taking place, there was nothing to be found; not even a tweet or Instagram post. Curious if there was anything that caused that as well as if anyone else noticed this? I've started following Citius closer this past year because I'm the type of guy who appreciates the "we're not Big J journalists and just want to grow the sport" type of coverage, but when what seemed like the biggest opportunity/story to help grow the sport came along this past weekend I was disappointed to see no Citius coverage whatsoever.
To clarify I'm not saying you needed someone there; I was just surprised to not see any tweets/posts about it at a minimum. From the perspective of someone who follows the sport a little but not too deeply, it seemed like the exact kind of story to reel someone like me in.
Curious what's with the lack of Citius coverage of the Nike Cross Nationals this past weekend (especially compared to all the coverage you guys gave to New Balance Nationals). I understand that you guys had someone at New Balance live (and maybe not at Nike), and that's fine; you can't have people everywhere all at the same time.
But what happened at Nike this past weekend was probably the biggest race of the high school track season in the Boys Mile; two twins who have been hyped since XC and are both Stanford commits going up against two Oregon commits who have taken center stage during track season and also added some playful banter heading into the race. The race had all the features of a great sports story going in and then to top it all off the race itself was incredible, with Birnbaum coming from the back of the pack to outkick Leo at the finish. I haven't followed the high school or college scene too closely recently but I'm personally now super stoked to watch these guys go at it in college over the next several years; it seems like exactly the kind of rivalry this sport needs.
But when I looked for Citius coverage of this seemingly great story taking place, there was nothing to be found; not even a tweet or Instagram post. Curious if there was anything that caused that as well as if anyone else noticed this? I've started following Citius closer this past year because I'm the type of guy who appreciates the "we're not Big J journalists and just want to grow the sport" type of coverage, but when what seemed like the biggest opportunity/story to help grow the sport came along this past weekend I was disappointed to see no Citius coverage whatsoever.
It probably comes down to bandwidth and corporate allegiance. Citius has been backed by NB this year and put out a lot of hype and some interviews leading up to the NB meet last week. They put there efforts there. There might be some corporate/sponsoring issues re: going to Nike. Listen to their state of the podcast episode from early last week or 10 days ago. And they discuss that some, shoe companies don't like to intermingle.
Yeah corporate allegiance was what I assumed. Even then, though, for a publication hoping to grow the sport there has to be a way to provide coverage to one of the sport's best stories of the year.
I'll admit that I likely don't understand all the nuances of the corporate allegiance side of things (I'm going to listen to that Citius podcast now actually to hopefully get a better appreciation for it), and I'm guessing it was in Citius's advertising contract with New Balance that they wouldn't provide coverage of Nike Nationals.
But in my personal opinion I think any advertising contract that forbids coverage of an entire event shouldn't be agreed upon, especially an event that has a story that has the opportunity to grow the sport so much. You don't see publications ignoring events/stories like that due to corporate allegiances in other sports, so I don't think it should be the same in track/running.
I don't mean this as an attack on Citius, and so I hope Kyle (if he sees this) doesn't take it that way. I'm sure there are nuances within the New Balance deal that I certainly don't and will never be able to get insight into; I really just want to start a discussion on this topic (mostly because, for what it's worth, I feel like the Heroes vs. Villains story was something Citius would've had a field day with and would've created some fantastic content about).