BBC/ProPublica Strike Again - Dr. Jeffrey Brown also doctored Magness' medical records before giving them to USADA

It gets real old when everyone who doesn't agree with you is a Nike employee, Caps employees or Alberto. Do you really think Nike hires people to post on Letsrun? I would be willing to bet just about anything no company would do this.

Tony-Maria-Alex wrote:

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

I suspect that Nike has hired a PR firm to smear any whistleblowers to sow seeds of doubt about their credibility.

And Salazar has enlisted--as usual--his progeny, Tony, Maria and Alex, to protect old man $al. They will have to get real jobs if daddy is banned forevermore.

What?? wrote:

It gets real old when everyone who doesn't agree with you is a Nike employee, Caps employees or Alberto.

Ahem, Tony/Maria/Alex, you are Alberto's spawn. Daddy happens to give you all paying jobs to monitor the hated-LRC, to defend daddy at all costs, to get those unmarked drug shipments daddy needs for team handouts, and to cut out middle of books to ready them for shipping goodies inside. You are all part of daddy's racket.

But not in my world - you wouldn't give the patient a copy of an uncompleted record first (unless of course you like to court deregistration or medico-legal disaster or are in fact dodgy to begin with).....

What?? wrote:

It gets real old when everyone who doesn't agree with you is a Nike employee, Caps employees or Alberto. Do you really think Nike hires people to post on Letsrun? I would be willing to bet just about anything no company would do this

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Tony-Maria-Alex wrote:

And Salazar has enlisted--as usual--his progeny, Tony, Maria and Alex, to protect old man $al. They will have to get real jobs if daddy is banned forevermore.

How much money?

rojo wrote:

I've told him if he ends up losing his job for a period of time, I personally will start an online fundraising goal to help support him so he can continue to coach.

Rojo, put your money where you mouth is. Trevor Graham has been unemployed for over a decade. He managed to get a dozen runners as big as Rupp taken down for taking a lot worse than L-carnatine. His whistle blowing even resulted in numerous people going to jail.

But you wont, will you? In the end you have always been a hypocrite. You'll have the back of Magness because he is your friend, not because you actually believe that he shouldn't be sanctioned.

But if he cheated, he should be. Being a whistle-blower should invite leniency, not guarantee immunity. Otherwise, where do you draw the line? It doesn't make it right if he cheated, it just shows an attempt to partially make up for it. That may be admirable, but it isn't full redemption.

If you don't start a crusade for Trevor Graham, you admit to being a hypocrite.

For those of us that aren't up to speed, could you briefly summarize what you're referring to?

rojo wrote:

Not those guys wrote:

At the end of the day, Magness is ... only speaking out now because he got fired.

And I can't fully trust a revenge plot.

Ok I agree with you if your definition of fired means, "Told Alberto he no longer would do the job he wanted him to do as he was uncomfortable with it. Alberto, who had already been witholding paychecks from Magness to help entice him to get on board, told him he had to do it. Magness said he would not so they figured out how to part ways. While parting ways, Magness turned down 5 figures in severance as he refused to sign an NDA."

Yeah. You nailed it buddy.

I'm still wondering if this quote can be cited. Maybe it has been out there plain as day, but I cannot find it anywhere. It is one thing for an anonymous poster to come on here and write whatever they want, but Rojo is a journalist who owns this website. If what Rojo wrote is true and factual, then it should be no problem to cite. Again, this isn't to say it's true or not, I'm just wondering where this information is coming from.

Garaged wrote:

I'm still wondering if this quote can be cited. Maybe it has been out there plain as day, but I cannot find it anywhere. It is one thing for an anonymous poster to come on here and write whatever they want, but Rojo is a journalist who owns this website. If what Rojo wrote is true and factual, then it should be no problem to cite. Again, this isn't to say it's true or not, I'm just wondering where this information is coming from.

The Fear Uncertainty and Doubt campaign on Magness continues.

I wonder how much a Nike troll gets paid?

Magness' story and actions have been consistent with someone who is being honest. And yet, the personal attacks continue.

Salazar and his LRC bots are doing just the opposite.

Has USATF posted anything regarding NOP's doping program? You'd think a sports federation in charge of anti-doping would be very concerned about the existence of a doping program.. I guess doping is okay if you are a very important sponsor.

Au contraire. It's actually because of a positive, professional opinion of USADA that I think they wouldn't have leaked an unfinished report from an unfinished investigation to the public, where the best they can say from their years of accumulated evidence-searching and evidence-finding is "it appears highly likely ...".The report indeed has a lot of evidence, some appearing to suggest rule violations could not have not happened, and some about breaking laws. But it's not quite conclusive enough evidence showing an athlete committed an anti-doping rule violation. This should actually be expected, because the report served another purpose.I think under these circumstances, USADA would keep quiet and respond with statements like "we are still investigating, so will not comment at this time about an on-going investigation" -- which they did.USADA is not the one who should be embarrassed, unless they attempt to go forward with this evidence on its own.

not sure wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

I'm convinced that USADA didn't leak this report on purpose, because it seems to be 269 pages of embarrassingly little substance confirming an actual anti-doping rule violation ever took place.

Aren't you that rekrunner that trusts authorities and always looks for the evidence? Why are you so negative about the evidence-searching authority? Or are you trolling him/her with a different spelling?