thread reader max wrote:
Charlie Freak wrote:From what I can see there's more of it from your side.
Prove it
Ah, yes, the old 'prove it' defense. Last refuge of those without an argument or the wits to express it.
thread reader max wrote:
Charlie Freak wrote:From what I can see there's more of it from your side.
Prove it
Ah, yes, the old 'prove it' defense. Last refuge of those without an argument or the wits to express it.
Charlie Freak wrote:
I'm a conservative (more Libertarian, actually) who supports treating gays just like anyone else and marijuana decriminalization. Can't go with you on healthcare, although I know some reform is needed. I am highly critical of knee-jerk, right-wing idiots and I think Timothy McVeigh and his ilk are just as evil as any Muslim terrorist. While I believe a majority of Muslims are sympathetic to the more radical wing of their religion and if push came to shove they would side with their terrorist brothers, I don't think all Muslims are criminals.
From the conservative perspective, liberals tend to be more apologetic about Muslim radicalism, and in fact have been known to blame America for Muslim terrorism against the West. I believe Obama falls into this category. In an effort to be seen as open-minded, moderate and accepting of all ways of life, liberals often deliberately overlook what is right in front of their face. When it comes to protecting our nation and way of life, we think it's logical to look at the usual suspects when a homemade IED goes off, and we don't care if that opens us up to the charge of "profiling".
As for this quote - "Bashing liberals, on the other hand, is futile, irrelevant and totally uncalled for" - does that go for conservative bashing, too?
Of course, we all (left, right, in the middle) want to feel safe and protected from the terrorism of 9/11, the Boston bombing, OK City, Newtown, etc. I don't see this as a political issue despite the never-ending pissing match on Letsrun this week. However, I do want to know why a group of people, even if they are extremists, hate our country so much. It doesn't make me condone terrorism or wish the Boston bombers were red neck Americans. I just don't buy the idea that Muslim terrorists hate us for our "way of life." We have a presence throughout most of the world, including the Middle East, and many resent us for "protecting our best interests." This is very different that "protecting our nation and way of life." Would you be ok with a Muslim country setting up a base in the U.S., as we did in Saudi Arabia after the Gulf War?
By the way, when and how has our "way of life" been threatened in our lifetime?
yeah...the New America Foundation. Just a harmless bunch of America-loving nice guys...with no axe to grind I'm sure.
Here's a few of their board members:
Fareed Zakaria
Jonathan SOROS
Atul A. Gawande
Liaquat Ahamed
Many of the other board members are CFR/trilateral commission types or UN/one world govt lovers and 'globalists'.
Not exactly a collection of true blue American patriots there, pal.
But I'm sure they only care about the truth & putting unbiased data out there & would never consider generating propaganda to support their leftist causes..
C'mon, Charlie, you're obviously more intelligent than this response. This has been an ugly cat fight since Tuesday (there was a brief coming together on Monday after the initial shock of the tragedy). One could easily argue that the "red neck" crowd is actually happy that the brothers are Muslim. It reeks of racism. The number of "I don't you so" posts is embarrassing and pathetic.
"From what I can see" there have been far more people cheering for the perpetrators to be Muslim. Heck, it almost sounds like some have been waiting for the next attack to go full throttle.
There are some hateful liberals in here as well, for sure. What I'm seeing in this thread (as well as earlier threads, some of which I believe have been deleted), however, is people accusing the LR liberals of being disappointed that the terrorists were Muslim, and at the lost opportunity to advance their alleged liberal agenda. Not only are these insults unsubstantiated, they are also being used to bash an entire political ideology. The liberal comments I've seen have been directed at these aforementioned attackers, not at conservatism generally, and have not included baseless accusations of traitorousness and the like. This is why I directed my post at the conservative haters here; because, at least from what I've seen, they are the ones on the offensive, posting false premises and using those ill-founded postulates as an excuse to trash liberals/democrats.
Charlie Freak wrote:
cooljewel wrote:As for this quote - "Bashing liberals, on the other hand, is futile, irrelevant and totally uncalled for" - does that go for conservative bashing, too?
Yes.
Then why aren't you on here calling out your liberal brethren for the name-calling, insults and flat-out hate speech toward conservatives on this very thread? From what I can see there's more of it from your side. Show me you're not a hypocrite.[/quote]
cooljewel wrote:
There are some hateful liberals in here as well, for sure. What I'm seeing in this thread (as well as earlier threads, some of which I believe have been deleted), however, is people accusing the LR liberals of being disappointed that the terrorists were Muslim, and at the lost opportunity to advance their alleged liberal agenda. Not only are these insults unsubstantiated, they are also being used to bash an entire political ideology.
The liberal comments I've seen have been directed at these aforementioned attackers, not at conservatism generally, and have not included baseless accusations of traitorousness and the like. This is why I directed my post at the conservative haters here; because, at least from what I've seen, they are the ones on the offensive, posting false premises and using those ill-founded postulates as an excuse to trash liberals/democrats.
Good to know there are still some sane voices of reason out there.
My name is Lance wrote:
Here's a few of their board members:
Fareed Zakaria
Jonathan SOROS
Atul A. Gawande
Liaquat Ahamed
Not exactly a collection of true blue American patriots there, pal.
So because they're brown, you don't consider them "true blue"? At least your true looks are apparent.
So when Obama makes his statement, in which he'll express passionate appreciation for the work of the FBI, BPD et al. and satisfaction with the outcome overall, will you haters accuse him of insincerity? Or will you shut your miserable mouths for once and take him at his word? The logical choice is obvious to thinking people, but I think for the "My name is Lance" crew, the cognitive dissonance will be deafening and crippling and you'll take the low road, as always.
cooljewel wrote:
There are some hateful liberals in here as well, for sure. What I'm seeing in this thread (as well as earlier threads, some of which I believe have been deleted), however, is people accusing the LR liberals of being disappointed that the terrorists were Muslim, and at the lost opportunity to advance their alleged liberal agenda. Not only are these insults unsubstantiated, they are also being used to bash an entire political ideology.
The liberal comments I've seen have been directed at these aforementioned attackers, not at conservatism generally, and have not included baseless accusations of traitorousness and the like. This is why I directed my post at the conservative haters here; because, at least from what I've seen, they are the ones on the offensive, posting false premises and using those ill-founded postulates as an excuse to trash liberals/democrats.
Charlie Freak wrote:Yes.
Then why aren't you on here calling out your liberal brethren for the name-calling, insults and flat-out hate speech toward conservatives on this very thread? From what I can see there's more of it from your side. Show me you're not a hypocrite.
+1
I'm neither liberal nor conservative.
If you counted with a clicker from the start of post bombing comments on this site, almost immediately the neo-cons nitwits on this site started name calling and slamming liberals.
I suspect there are only one or two of you, who do this to get your jollies. Sick.
Every sane American, of any political affiliation, is happy right now that the suspect has been caught and that people can be safe in their neighborhoods right now.
When you spew hate, you are no better than the terrorists.
"Now we have a half way, kinda home grown, but kinda foreign terrorist attack"
um...no, we don't. What part of ISLAMIC JIHADIST do you not get, you stupid f&ck?
Just Sayin wrote:
I agree that Democrats are far more forgivimg of Muslim extremes, but the Rebublicans have far more in common.
So why do Muslims vote 90% Democrat?
If anything, Muslims and liberals are borne of the same desire to destroy freedom and individual liberty through the power of the police state. Both groups constantly piss on the Constitution. Both groups deny the Judeo-Christian basis of our legal system. Both groups want to disarm the American people.
Charlie Freak wrote:
If you're the reasoned, enlightened lot you say you are, why can't you control yourself and not insult people, as you ask conservatives to do?....
We don't claim to be perfect - just better at remaining level-headed and well-reasoned than you.
Thanks. Sorry for the confusion.
"Chalk me up as a liberal who didn't give a f*ck what the perpetrator/s nationality or religion was/were - just that they were found. That so many of you think otherwise is baffling."
Baffling?? You're retarded or are seriously lacking in observation skills, as this board was packed with posts all week (until yesterday) about the threat from domestic terroists. There were quite a few liberal assmonkeys determined to believe some white tea party member/Christian Texan was the culprit.
Maybe we can FINALLY address immigration after this?
The famil of those two idiots are pieces of work in several cases. Why should the US allow such security risks to enter our nation?
How about closing the borders and halting ALL immigration for a decade, counting heads, tossing out the illegals and getting the economy back in order?
...how about making a basic command of the English language a prerequsite to citizenship?
Once we get our OWN house in order, and that's saying something, THEN we can address other things, if ever.
We have plenty of homegrown problems to address without bringing in more.
My name is Lance wrote:
"Chalk me up as a liberal who didn't give a f*ck what the perpetrator/s nationality or religion was/were - just that they were found. That so many of you think otherwise is baffling."
Baffling?? You're retarded or are seriously lacking in observation skills, as this board was packed with posts all week (until yesterday) about the threat from domestic terroists. There were quite a few liberal assmonkeys determined to believe some white tea party member/Christian Texan was the culprit.
A few posters on Letsrun doesn't summarize the viewpoints of an entire political party, and should not be presented as such.
Keep your head up though. We got them!
"..but don't persecute all religions and political affiliations just because you don't agree with them."
unless the religion happens to be Christianity, LOL. Have to watch out for the Jerry Falwell brigade. Bunch of ruthless killers, that bunch. I heard they handed out some JC tracts at the mall last week. Probably just doing recon for their next bombing..
a speaker of the l wrote:
Charlie Freak wrote:If you're the reasoned, enlightened lot you say you are, why can't you control yourself and not insult people, as you ask conservatives to do?....
We don't claim to be perfect - just better at remaining level-headed and well-reasoned than you.
Thanks. Sorry for the confusion.
From the looks of this quote...
'...almost immediately the neo-cons nitwits on this site started name calling and slamming liberals.'
...you're much better at being hypocrites as well. The irony on this one is rich. You can't make this stuff up.
My name is Lance wrote:
"Now we have a half way, kinda home grown, but kinda foreign terrorist attack"
um...no, we don't. What part of ISLAMIC JIHADIST do you not get, you stupid f&ck?
What part of AMERICAN CITIZEN do you not get, you racist moron?
Blah, blah, blah... keep pissing. I actually thought you had some substance earlier. I was mistaken. I hope no one bothers to cut and paste in response, are you really going to continue with the charade that your side hasn't been just as pathetic?
Extreme Liberal - believe in torturing unborn babies to death as a form of b/c.
Extreme Muslim - believe in blowing up innocent women & children, but draws the line at the barbarism that is baby torture-extermination/abortion