jennifer cruz wrote:In other words, you're admitting that your theories are complete b.s. Thank you.
moron
your peabrain clearly can't comprehend difference between "theory", no matter how good it may be, & "fact"
jennifer cruz wrote:In other words, you're admitting that your theories are complete b.s. Thank you.
moron
your peabrain clearly can't comprehend difference between "theory", no matter how good it may be, & "fact"
jjjjjjjj wrote:I did 1/2 mv2 without writing anything down, so I could easily have messed up a conversion here or there, but it looked like 2kg in body weight extra from the energy calculation for 2:12 1k (135 lb) (which frankly probably bears little relation to the actual energy use, figuring stride height and wind in would be necessary) would cost him 2.1 seconds, giving him 2:14.1.
it's a pleasure to converse with a smart guy
i used to use v^2 for a long time as well, but the actual correct method is to use v^3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_(physics)
Power
Note that the power needed to push an object through a fluid increases as the cube of the velocity
so
better answer to your question is :
2'13.4
or 1.4s slower
52.43 wrote:46.3 / 1'41.7 -> 2'10.79 , 3'26.16
Well that line is about Coe - you really think he could be as fast?
coe's is likely subtlely different :
these looks better for him :
45.7 / 1'41.4 -> 2'10.77 , 3'27.13
45.6 / 1'41.3 -> 2'10.69 , 3'27.11
i do think, finally, 12y after noah's run, that they were actually exceptionally evenly-matched over 1k, with coe better by 3 - 5 tenths over 800 & noah better by ~ 1s+ over 1500
So to sum up your argument Ventolin:
You have asserted that Ngeny (the 1km record holder) was a miler, and you have repeated this ad nauseum as if it had some special significance. Next you assert, as if you had just found gold in your underwear, that Ngeny could have run 1:41.7, which at the time, would have made him the 2nd fastest 800 meter runner in history. This of course renders your incessant repetition of Ngeny's being a miler rather pointless, because YOU believe that Ngeny was as much an 800 meter runner (by potential) as he was a miler. Next you proceed to decide that Coe was basically on par with Ngeny at 1km, which of course further renders your assertion that Ngeny was a miler meaningless, as Coe, while a miler, was clearly better at 800 meters, at least in terms of fastest times relative to the world.
As if all of the above were not sufficient to render you a laughingstock, you have decided that Ngeny should have spent a week resting and carboloading before his 1km record attempt, as if you would have (had you been his adviser) ordered him to eat heaping plates of spaghetti and ugali so that he'd have the requisite glycogen in his muscles to run a race which lasts just over 2 minutes, perhaps longer than you have lasted in years, if you catch my drift...
It has been a pleasure puncturing your little bubbles of delusion, but I am afraid you're just masochistic enough to come back for more.
jennifer cruz wrote:You have asserted that Ngeny (the 1km record holder) was a miler, and you have repeated this ad nauseum as if it had some special significance
moron
i am stating "fact" based on pbs
try & comprehend that idiot
Next you assert, as if you had just found gold in your underwear, that Ngeny could have run 1:41.7, which at the time, would have made him the 2nd fastest 800 meter runner in history. This of course renders your incessant repetition of Ngeny's being a miler rather pointless, because YOU believe that Ngeny was as much an 800 meter runner (by potential) as he was a miler
what part of your peabrain can't understand difference between "theoretical" - 1'41.7 & "factual" - 1'44.4pb ???
people can ignore theory & go with fact & they can't be criticized, but this concept is too difficult for you
Next you proceed to decide that Coe was basically on par with Ngeny at 1km, which of course further renders your assertion that Ngeny was a miler meaningless, as Coe, while a miler, was clearly better at 800 meters, at least in terms of fastest times relative to the world
read again above difference between "theory" & fact" & get it into your numbskull
facts are : noah : 1'44pb, 2'11.9wr, 3'43.3 - 2nd fastest ever mile
As if all of the above were not sufficient to render you a laughingstock, you have decided that Ngeny should have spent a week resting and carboloading before his 1km record attempt, as if you would have (had you been his adviser) ordered him to eat heaping plates of spaghetti and ugali so that he'd have the requisite glycogen in his muscles to run a race which lasts just over 2 minutes, perhaps longer than you have lasted in years, if you catch my drift...
imbecile
i'm talking about 1 pound of extra wt from carb loading in 1/52 prior to 1k wr attempt
clearly you are too stoopid to understand the physics ramifications of what 3 or 4 pounds of extra wt woud do due it's drag effect
i even posted the calculation method for a moron such as yourself to see how much 4 pounds woud slow a 135/2'12 guy which woud far outweigh benefits of any cho loading, but you are too stoopid to understand
It has been a pleasure puncturing your little bubbles of delusion, but I am afraid you're just masochistic enough to come back for more.
f*ck off moron
you offer nothing
aussiemiler wrote:To think that you can chart human performance, which depends on as yet unmeasurable variables like motivation, tolerance to pain, pride, ego, the human spirit, chi, biorhythms, fear, and competitiveness, with a calculator and a chemistry textbook is foolhardy.
i'm afraid you are not too bright
even the iaaf tries to compare human performances - they actually have 2 outdoor events called the heptathlon & decathlon where comparative performances in different events are basis of whole events
clearly they are wasting their time according to you & just scrub these events...
the smartest letsrunner wrote:Wentolin's horse calculator, horsiecalc.co.uk or wherever he has that horrible website, missed Mo Farrah's 10,000 PR this year by OVER 30 SECONDS. And he had recent races in the 3000, 5000 and half-marathon to go on! Anyone with a casual interest in the sport can come within 2% more times than not, and that's about all wentolin^0 has been good for
moron
no one in cyberspace was calling mo better than a low-27 runner last year & i saw no one thinking he was much better than that entering that eugene 10k this year
a good coupla fits for him last year based on tv commentator comments now saying he was 27-flat last year, but nothing from camp mo :
51.4 / 1'48.6 -> 3'33.5 , 4'50.7 , 7'28.8 , 12'54.6 , 27'01.7
to
51.3 / 1'48.4 -> 3'33.2 , 4'50.2 , 7'28.0 , 12'53.4 , 26'59.2
this year, prior to eugene, if camp mo had said he had turned into eliud of '04, then it wouda taken 2'00 to find :
51.6 / 1'48.5 -> 3'32.5 , 4'48.8 , 7'24.8 , 12'45.7 , 26'37.7
to
51.5 / 1'48.3 -> 3'32.1 , 4'48.3 , 7'24.1 , 12'44.5 , 26'35.2
I challenged him to make some predictions early this season so that we could actually see horsiecalc.co.uk in action, but other than failing simply MASSIVELY with Farah's time he has put NOTHING out there, for the obvious reason that it's useless for this purpose
moron
for the 100th time, read above & get it into your numbskull
All wentolin^0 does is work retrospectively to paint horsiecalc.co.uk in a flattering light. ("Hey, look, Farah has a 10000 PR of 26:45. His 3000 PR is 7:38, but I happen to think that he has 48.7435 400 speed based on watching Diamond League races on TV. Trying horsiecalc.co.uk ====> 12:53! Look, horsiecalc works")
imbecile
you stoopid enough to think him running 12'53 with kms of 2'38 & 2'40 with a ~ 60s & 54s last 2 laps means his best possible that day was 12'53 ???
Vent do you have any friends? If so, when they annoy you do you call them moron, imbecile etc? If so, do you have any teeth left?
This has to be the greatest ventolin thread of all time.
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