Thanks for your reply and the questions you raised.
I have a few points I'd like to add to yours, nacf, and a few others.
First, I never said that Coe was 1.7 secs ahead of the rest of the world for 16 years. He was when he first set the record and as you say, for the next 3 years. But at the time of his 2nd record he was further ahead of the rest of the worldthan anyone else had been since Rudolf Harbig was in the '30's. And Coe's record, despite Cruz getting close, wasn't bettered until 1997.
It is clear that Coe in the 800m final in LA was not the same athlete of '81. How could he be having suffered serious illness problems the previous year (some have suggested that the toxoplasmosis virus could have been in his system since '82) and being several months behind with his training in '84. What you have said about his training times being "as good as in '81" is a little misleading and slightly out of context. Basically Coe was short of training and race sharpening as the LA Olympics began, and he used the preliminary rounds to "bring him to a peak" for defending his 1500m title. It wasn't until a few weeks after LA, when he ran a 3:32 1500m in Zurich (last lap 53.0, 200m in 25.5, 100m in 12.5) that he was probably back to his '81 form. Unfortunately he further tore fibres in his foot during the race and had to end his season there. His intention was to run a few 800's and there is little doubt he would have gone sub 1:43 with the right pace.
In "Coming Back" Coe says:
"Since the start of the year (1984) I'd always been effectively one stage or so behind what I would have wished, not having run from July to Christmas....I was low-key until March, and didn't get on the track until June. The hard works on hills was done in April rather than February." He continues, (p.93) "I went off to Chicago....After I'd been there a week,....I had the first indication that things were going well, with a series of 20x200, the first ten with 25secs recovery, the second ten with 35 to 40 seconds recovery. The times were mainly around 26 secs, but the last one was 22.5, against a personal best ever of 21.7. I'd not been able to produce such quality at the end of a series SINCE 1981."
In one aspect of his training he was running better than he had since 1981, not better than in '81 itself. Moreover, it doesn't mean he was in the same shape "overall" in 84 as he had been in 81.
Ryun never held the 2 Mile WR, he held the 880, 1500m and 1 Mile simultaneosly.
You said: "Kipketer, if you remember, when he equaled Coe's WR was a full 1.5 secs behind him at the 600 m mark. His third 200 was too slow. He ran sub 1.43 many times - on his own."
When they ran 1:41.73, both went through 400m in a similar time, Kip 49.6, Coe 49.9. Kipketer covered the next 200m in 26.7 (1:16.3 at 600m) and then 25.5 for the final 200m. Coe's were 25.1 and then 26.7. Had Kipketer covered the penultimate 200m faster, lets say as fast as Coe, it is ludicrous to think he would still have covered the last 200m in 25.5. He too would have slowed down.
Yes Kipketer did run many sub 1:43's on his own and was miles ahead of his contemporaries, but the athletic world was a different landscape in '97 than it had been in '81. Kipketer was given rabbits at almost every grand prix (which didn't exist in '81) in an effort to beat Coe's record. Of the twelve 800m Coe ran in '81, six of them were international "matches" representing England or the UK against other countries. How many times did Kip have to turn out and run for Denmark in '97? By the late '90's athletes at the top could basically run wherever and whenever in top quality fields for themselves. This was not the case in the early 80's, especially in the UK, where the AAA dictated much of the time as to how many invitation meetings athletes could run in.
I agree with your comments on "The Perfect Distance" and PED's completely.
Ryun's performance in LA '67 was phenomenal and ahead of its time, but "dirt track" is a bit misleading. It says in "The Milers" (T&FNews) that the "track had been resurfaced and it seemed fast" (P.329). He didn't lead for the first 3 laps, but only went past Keino AFTER the 1200m point. ("At this point, going into the last backstretch, Ryun was alongside Keino, ready for his drive")
His last 300m was 39.6, last 800m 1:50.7! I have seen several different claims for his last 3 laps, The Milers book says the last 3/4 was 2:48.7, which is 2:47.8 for 1200m, but I haven't seen the race and wouldn't like to state that is for certain. Whatever it was, it was certainly bloody fast!
I can see exactly why you suggest Snell as having the best series ever, in that he won 2 golds to Coe's gold and silver, but the standard of his runs in terms of time was not as intense as Coe's were 20 years later, but that is only my opinion.
Snell ran 6 races in 8 days with: 1:49.0, 1:46.9, 1:45.1, 3:46.8, 3:38.8 and 3:38.1. Coe ran 7 in 9: 1:45.71, 1:46.75, 1:45.51, 1:43.64, 3:45.3, 3:35.81 and 3:32,53.
I agree with Harry Ramsden's comments on Coe's '85 season. If he hadn't suffered with a recurring injury through July and August he would have run a lot faster than the 1:43.07 he ran in late August. When he ran 1:44.0 in May, followed up with a victory over Cram at 800m in June, this had been off a winter training for a move up to 5000m. The following year, '86, Coe was in better shape, but his fastest time was only 1:44.10, though he won the European title and was ranked No 1. If he could run 1:43.07 in a bad year, then of course he had the ability to run faster than this in '84 and '86, but they just didn't happen.