Atantic Region XC - D3

How about SUNY Potsdam? Word is they have a handfull of 30 year old, sub 2:30 marathoners with eligability left, joining the team this year.

I give my reguards to the kids on teams such as Hobart, Clarkson, SUNYIT, and other schools without a track program and little funding.

Men’s Race

1.TCNJ

2.NYU

3.Cortland

4.Geneseo

5.Plattsburgh

6.RIT

7.Brockport

8.Rochester

9.St. Lawrence

10.RPI

Atlantic Region wrote:

Sorry to be negative, but at least Coach Ramos new what he was doing with distance runners...

....at the dinner table. Buff State's teams have and will continue to be awful. And they can't really get any worse than they were.

Yea...ok....you got me there. I suppose what I meant was, he was fairly competent. More so than the "head" cross country that they will have now.

Apparently the old man Tom Proctor will be assuming the day to day coaching role during XC, while the man with the title will just be the man with the title. I still agree with your assertion that the program will still sink deeper into the pit of despair.

I met a former Fredonia runner/drunk (in a bar awhile back) who called himself "the rocket." How will Fredonia compete without that kid?

PS, I know that was random, but it is a true story.

Tom's a good guy and I wasn't sure what his role would be, if any. Not sure it will really do any difference, since the other guy is not the most competent. I think if I were Tom, I'd be pretty upset about the whole situation. Why should they make the track coach the head cross country coach, while Tom will be doing all the planning and such, presumably for less money and recognition?

1.Cortland

2.NYU

3.TCNJ

4.Potsdam

5.SLU

6.Geneseo

7.RIT

8.Plattsburgh

9.Rochester

10.Buff.State

Potsdam??? are you talking women's? I hope so.

That is very true, this region should get 4 teams to NCAA's this coming season if they all run well. One question though is inter-regional racing now plays apart of the process late season. Anyone know what good meets any of the top teams are going too where they can "score" some criteria points for the at large bids. NYU has their conference meet with teams from like 5 other regions. Paul Short might be to early to carry much weight, but beating or being close to Haverford there would help some people. Someone told me NYU was going out to Wisconsin for a meet? anybody upstate going over to ohio maybe, or New England second half of the season?

Lets set something straight. The 1:52.x guy from Geneseo isn't running XC. He is playing soccer in the fall and running indoor and outdoor track. He is a sprinter who just happens to do the 800. He's not a distance runner

There's No way in Hell that CLOKE from Cortland will run in the top 5, no way he's running like shit now and i think he will not improve he's been running like crap all summer in his races, people are saying he is taking it easy bull crap at the boilermaker 15k i saw he go out with the leaders and no more then minutes later i Passed him and i was about top 50 and he ran 51:36 so there's no way he's in contention, Sorry.. but it's the truth.

hotspur wrote:

Lets set something straight. The 1:52.x guy from Geneseo isn't running XC. He is playing soccer in the fall and running indoor and outdoor track. He is a sprinter who just happens to do the 800. He's not a distance runner

Thanks for the clarification. As for schools schedules, NYU is going to the UW-Lax invite. Typically it is a very good meet with some quality D1,2 and 3 schools.

Last years results:

Some of the other meets that will help get "bonus" points are:

NYSCTC

ECAC

SUNYAC

NESCAC

Empire 8

UR Invite

Albany Invite

RPI Invite

Found this site. Must be the new Atlantic Regional site?

http://www.brockport.edu/~athletics/Atlantic_CC/home.htm

It lists the at large stuff:

http://www.brockport.edu/~athletics/Atlantic_CC/at_large_criteria_2006.htm

getting 4 teams from the region i think is a bit over optomistic. i say the region would be lucky to get one atlarge bid after the way the teams out of atlantic region have been competing at nationals. New Jersey got 10th which was decent but then Geneseo got close to last, can't remember the exact number i just know their first guy was in the 70s or 80s. I think you have to only expect to have 2 atlantic teams going.

I still haven't found out what the new rules are, but they are changing. I'm figuring that we'll see 3 teams and a handful of individuals go this year. At least I hope so.

Hey McFly,

Read the post I just put up with the new atlantic region site and the at large criteria.

My thinking is that we have a very good chance of getting 4 teams. Check out this breakdown:

atlantic - 4

central - 5

great lakes - 4

mideast - 4

midwest - 5

new england - 5

south/southeast - 2

west - 3

That's 32 teams. I'd say this is pretty realistic.