Actual snipers (including a Congressman) think it was an inside job

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  • bah.

    Anonymous Poster

    4 hours ago 07/15/2024 9:48pm EDT
    re: i hate you x2

    i hate you x2 wrote:

    Ah yes, as us runners all know, the best track athletes are in run clubs!

    Apparently the kid had tried out for his schools shooting team and didn't even make JV. Can't imagine those spots are very competitive either.

    Whatever. End of the day, he seemed like a pretty good shot to have grazed the target from a few hundred feet away within a few shots. This after the added stress of having pointed the gun at two cops who had begun to chase him up the ladder and then immediately turning and starting to fire at Trump.

  • Trump #1

    Anonymous Poster

    4 hours ago 07/15/2024 10:17pm EDT
    re: Kobbs Hessler

    They can't be this incompetent. This had to be planned out ahead of time. WTF were they inside the warehouse? Who ordered them to stay there?

    nypost.com
    Local counter-sniper team was inside building where Trump shooter climbed on the roof and opened fire: sources
    @nypost
    Crooks was able to scale the building unchallenged before firing off eight shots with an AR-style assault rifle, grazing Trump in the ear, killing one Trump supporter and wounding two others.
    Link:nypost.com/2024/07/15/us-news/counter-...

  • registered

    rudedog

    Member since 05/04/2019.

    399 posts. Last post 3 hours ago.
    3 hours ago 07/15/2024 10:21pm EDT
    re: fisky

    Some very unsettling things about this, not the least is the secret service sniper watching the shooter through his scope for at least 10 seconds and shooting him after he fired. Either he was waiting for permission to engage the shooter(which is what I hope) or waiting for him to shoot

  • Polker Bok

    Anonymous Poster

    3 hours ago 07/15/2024 10:28pm EDT
    re: rudedog

    rudedog wrote:

    Some very unsettling things about this, not the least is the secret service sniper watching the shooter through his scope for at least 10 seconds and shooting him after he fired. Either he was waiting for permission to engage the shooter(which is what I hope) or waiting for him to shoot

    Your hopes are up in smokes, Dog. Videos do not lie. The Secret Service guy was waiting for the geek to take a shot at Trump. Biden ordered the Secret Service to stand down until the operation was completed, then engage.

  • Polker Bok

    Anonymous Poster

    3 hours ago 07/15/2024 10:33pm EDT
    re: Trump #1

    Trump #1 wrote:

    They can't be this incompetent. This had to be planned out ahead of time. WTF were they inside the warehouse? Who ordered them to stay there?

    Link:nypost.com/2024/07/15/us-news/counter-...

    Seriously, do you really need those two questions answered for you? Are you so naive and helpless that you need someone to help you figure out the answers? WTF is the matter with you? I don't need help answering the three questions I just posed.

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    JO Coach

    Member since 12/09/2019.

    297 posts. Last post 3 hours ago.
    3 hours ago 07/15/2024 10:44pm EDT
    re: bah.

    Perhaps this wasn't so much political and just as simple as what we're hearing from former classmates about how picked on Crooks was. Maybe DJT was just an avatar for all of the bullies who picked on him. The classic "Jeremy spoke in class today"

    Not for nothing but cross country kids aren't known to be super cool but you never hear that these young shooters were actively part of a cross country team.

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    rudedog

    Member since 05/04/2019.

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    3 hours ago 07/15/2024 10:49pm EDT
    re: Polker Bok

    I hope your wrong, hope it's bureaucratic incompetence, but needs to be addressed

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    Bullet the Blue Sky

    Member since 01/13/2016.

    1,940 posts. Last post 2 hours ago.
    2 hours ago 07/15/2024 11:30pm EDT
    re: Kobbs Hessler

    Kobbs Hessler wrote:

    Add Rob O'Neill to the list, SEAL Team 6 sniper who killed Bin Laden. This is not incompetence. "It's gotta be inside."

    Start at 26:10

    Video:www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoFGPmk_ktE

    Again, there is nothing convincing in their arguments. Experts are baffled by the incompetence of non-experts. Shrug.

    The great irony would be if it was actually an inside job, but actually a hoax by the Trump team, and not the deep state dems. Not that I believe it was either of those.

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    SeattleSilver

    Member since 09/30/2020.

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    2 hours ago 07/15/2024 11:30pm EDT
    re: WinstonSmith

    WinstonSmith wrote:

    SeattleSilver wrote:

    How to tell us that you don't understand the elements of treason without writing that you don't know the elements of treason.

    You operate in feelings not reason.

    The opposite, actually. I have been a lawyer for 45 years. My life's work is reasoning regardless of feelings and desired outcomes.

    You, on the other hand, dislike certain actions so you label them as treason regardless of whether it fits.

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    SeattleSilver

    Member since 09/30/2020.

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    2 hours ago 07/15/2024 11:35pm EDT
    re: JO Coach

    JO Coach wrote:

    Perhaps this wasn't so much political and just as simple as what we're hearing from former classmates about how picked on Crooks was. Maybe DJT was just an avatar for all of the bullies who picked on him. The classic "Jeremy spoke in class today"

    Not for nothing but cross country kids aren't known to be super cool but you never hear that these young shooters were actively part of a cross country team.

    Perhaps. A former classmate has been videoed regarding the bullying. Another classmate has said that the shooter was very conservative and more conservative than most of his classmates. If so, the shooting wouldn't appear to be a political statement but a statement of rage, defiance and bid for eternal notoriety.

  • Are you ok hun

    Anonymous Poster

    2 hours ago 07/15/2024 11:37pm EDT
    re: Kobbs Hessler

    Ok I follow the OP’s theory.

    JD Vance’s rhetoric calling Trump the ‘American Hitler’ is why Trump was shot and Vance is in Trump’s inner circle.

    Yep an inside job, it checks out.

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