At what point do you look at a performance and say "Yeah, he's gotta be doping."

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3 months ago 04/23/2024 2:11pm EDT

re: bladerunner

bladerunner wrote:
Every doping conspiracy expert on this board thinks Sifan Hassan is dirty. She breaks all the doping rules. She has been an elite runner for 11 years. She races frequently. She is tested all the time. As Craig Engels said, she is tested more than any runner he has ever seen. It doesn't matter. The nuts on this board know better.

If testing catches anyone who is doping how do you explain confidential athlete surveys that show up to 1 in 2 championship athletes may be doping and yet only a minute fraction of tests are positive?

3 months ago 04/23/2024 2:12pm EDT

re: avg.letsrunnerdude

I knew Karissa Schweizer was cheating when she said her favorite workout was repeat 800s back in 2017.

3 months ago 04/23/2024 2:15pm EDT

re: Armstronglivs

Armstronglivs wrote:
bladerunner wrote:
Every doping conspiracy expert on this board thinks Sifan Hassan is dirty. She breaks all the doping rules. She has been an elite runner for 11 years. She races frequently. She is tested all the time. As Craig Engels said, she is tested more than any runner he has ever seen. It doesn't matter. The nuts on this board know better.
If testing catches anyone who is doping how do you explain confidential athlete surveys that show up to 1 in 2 championship athletes may be doping and yet only a minute fraction of tests are positive?

That survey means nothing.

3 months ago 04/23/2024 2:38pm EDT

re: athsyjd

athsyjd wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
If testing catches anyone who is doping how do you explain confidential athlete surveys that show up to 1 in 2 championship athletes may be doping and yet only a minute fraction of tests are positive?
That survey means nothing.

Your comment means nothing. It was the athletes who were doping admitted it.

3 months ago 04/23/2024 3:23pm EDT

re: 15154

15154 wrote:
Not quite. None of those 3 ran sub 13.

He said "sub 13:10" go back to school

3 months ago 04/23/2024 10:37pm EDT

re: Armstronglivs

There might be 25% of the top 25 in the world who are "legal" with their "supplements". And I'd bet every one of them is doing Salazar type shadiness and pushing right up against the legal limits.

3 months ago 04/24/2024 7:45am EDT

re: cramister

cramister wrote:
15154 wrote:
Not quite. None of those 3 ran sub 13.
He said "sub 13:10" go back to school

Umm.... OP said only "pretty suspicious" about "sub 13:10", not - as you falsely claimed - "can’t run faster than Marty Liquori, Dick Quax, and Matt Centrowitz did in the 70s-80s without being dopers". OP said that only about sub 13 ("sub-13:00 is definitely unachieveable without performance enhancing drugs"). I think OP is wrong but of course can't prove that.

And of course you are poorly informed: none of these three ran "sub 13:10". Quax was the fastest with his 13:12.87.

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