Biological male wins girls' New England high jump title

If she never went through puberty, or even if she went through part but not all what is the difference between her and another incredibly talented biological woman? I know as a man other men are going to be better that me just because of their parents genetics, is this the same?

Wow, talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel!

The dodgy Hong Kong-based website you've linked to is a clickbait factory infamous for misleading and inaccurate info.

BNN Breaking, founded in 2022 by an Indian American tech bro, is an aggregator that apppears to use AI to crawl the web grabbing content, which it reposts as "breaking news" under headlines computer-generated to grab the attention of gullible readers.

Posting crap like this so you get a chance to smear a young woman as "anti-trans" for standing up for girls' and women's right to fair and safe sports that are free of ALL male competitors is low even for you, mate. But it just goes to show how desperate you are to dig up whatever bilge you can find in the bottom reaches of the internet to use as an excuse to take potshots at a female person who has the nerve to tell authoritarian men like you to stop trying to force women and girls to have to accept males in our sports.

Gotta hand it to you, though - slagging off Selina Soule as "anti-trans" is an ingenious way to mark International Women's Day.

The difference is about 20cm. That's how much higher Vashti Cunningham and Yaroslava Mahuchikh jumped when they were at the same age.

1.75 for a high school girl is very good. But it's not incredibly good.

Soule doesn't speak for all women and girls. She only speaks for people who agree with her, and half of women in her generation would rather not be represented by her. But I guess those women do not count as women in your ideology.

Uh, I guess they could have a separate division in sports competition for non-males. That is what the feminists of the 1960s and 70s suggested. Then, after all their hard work, Title IX happened and they became (almost) equal with men in terms of opportunity. It was awesome.

Somehow that got hijacked by people with male bodies and male hormones. Dang.

Hijacked? Isn't that too melodramatic?

Let me ask you this again, since you refused to answer the last time.

Is there anything trans students should be allowed to do that is also valued by cis students? Or should they be only allowed to do things that have no value for cis students?

I referring to any individual athlete that gets beat by a transgender female. Your first paragraph has nothing to do with that.

"Everything woke turns to s***"

Letsrun posters sure love ogling at trans teens. Something very creepy about all these types of threads.

Let me ask you a few questions.
Why are trans students the only group that can’t be told NO?
Why is the SPECIAL treatment afforded to trans students always presented as fair treatment?

Why do you keep stating that trans students aren’t allowed to do thing other students are allowed to do?

Those BOYS have every opportunity open to them that others BOYS have.

They don’t want the same treatment. They want more opportunities than other boys get. They want special treatment.

So you can stop with the “fair treatment” crap.

Yet, here you are right in the middle of it?

This is total BS.

They are told they cannot play sports because male puberty gives them advantage.

Then they are told they cannot take the medicine that stop male puberty.

Then even if you stop male puberty (like this HS student), they are still told they shouldn't play sports.

No one is telling them they shouldn't play sports, though. The issue is solely about them competing in female sports.

Males who "identify as" girls/women are perfectly free to play and compete with members of their own sex in the male or open division, and with members of both sexes in co-ed sports.

There's also the option of creating new sports divisions for people who don't want to partake in sports where competitors are classified by sex.

You are of the view that teenage and adult males who at Tanner Stage 2 were put on GnRHa drugs to block their pituitary sex hormones and stop their testicles from pumping out the massive amounts of testosterone customary for their sex from about age 11 on should compete in girls' and women's sports because you think there are no appreciable physical differences affecting sports performance between adolescent and adult males who haven't been through the T-driven aspects of male puberty of adolescence and girls and grown women who've been through female puberty, or who are in the midst of going through it.

You are free to believe that. But most people who know anything about human biology, child and adolescent development, physical sex differences and fairness in sports think it's crackers.

Most people are aware that there are myriad physical differences between adolescent girls and grown women and teenage and adult males who haven't been through the T-driven aspects of male puberty of adolescence due to a disorder of the male endocrine system, whether it's a natural disorder or one that's been artifically induced by use of Big Pharma drugs. Because most people recognize that girls and women are an entirely different sex to boys and men - we aren't the same as males only with a few different parts here and there and minus all the testicular T.

No, they are told they cannot compete in the female category of sports because they are male.

BTW, your side in this debate came up with the idea that the only reason male adolescents and adults have an advantage over female adolescents and adults in sports is because of the ways male bodies change during and after adolescence due to the effects of the massive amounts of testicular T that males typically produce starting when they are 10-11 or so. And your side is the only side that continues to make this claim.

It's a claim that informed people on my side of the debate think is bollox.

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ACLU of Texas Files Federal Complaints Against DFW Area Schools for Anti-LGBTQIA+ Policies

DALLAS — The American Civil Liberties Union of Texas filed federal civil rights complaints Thursday against a fine arts public charter school in Fort Worth and a Fort Worth-area school district for

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The ACLU of Texas filed a Title IX complaint on behalf of a Fort Worth family with a transgender and nonbinary child who was banned from joining the prestigious Singing Girls of Texas choir despite the choir director’s support of the student’s participation.

The student was blocked from completing their audition and the school board passed a new choir eligibility policy that forces students to perform with the choir that aligns with their sex assigned at birth.

So what "biological advantage" does this student have in girls' choir? Is there any concern about other students' safety if she is allowed to join the choir? Why should this student be banned?

What if we say we don't care to answer your question or to defend this policy or anything related to it, because what we care about is SPORTS, which is why we are on a running forum?

There were plenty of men who raged against that move toward equality too, the standard term at the time was “male chauvinists.” If only they’d realized that if you oppose opportunity for women, the tactic isn’t to yell and pound the table, the tactic is to claim you are also a woman so move over girls and let me in. There’s probably some OG male chauvinists in nursing homes now slapping their foreheads and wondering why they didn’t think of this.

Please tell that to "Bunt."

So what biological advantage do you think this HS student has?

Do you think someone born male has advantage even if the person does not experience any male puberty?

Can you point me to the trans girl or woman that is participating in girls' or women's sports that has not experienced ANY male puberty, please?