US had a man walk on the moon in 1969, but now we can't even land a tiny box on the moon 55 years later?

The fact that we cannot travel to other galaxies in a reasonable time now has nothing to do with the feasibility of lunar landings in the 1960s.

In fact, the math concerning both of those processes was understood perfectly back then.

You are correct that orbital dynamics is, in fact, easier than a lot of mundane problems we face here on Earth. I'm not sure that supports your skepticism at all!

You know what the irony might possibly be? The moon landing story that I guess some people still believe might actually be the conspiracy theory in itself - not that other way around. Awesome plot twist.

I actually believe NASA made a horrible mistake with the current Project Artemis they are running which centered around putting a permanent base on the moon and having the first woman and person of color step on the moon (you know, instead of just 12 white American males). Because before this, the best excuse as to why nobody else has been there - including the Americans since 1972 - is that it was expensive, had been done and there was no incentive to go back which I guess was a decent misdirect.

But now NASA created the incentive and most certainly are investing - 53 billion from 2021-2025 specifically. Yes this amount of money is not at the same level of the approx 180-200 billion they spent back in the 60's (inflation adjusted) but of course it shouldn't need to be right? Massive technological advancements and the fact that many, many things that were done back then that won't need to be done now because of the learnings already there from 6 successful missions, should surely mitigate costs which I am sure isn't the most important factor anyway.

Artemis/NASA has committed to a first crewed flight in September of 2025 and it would seem completely impossible that if it was done in the 60's beginning with zero knowledge of how to do it, it couldn't be done 55 years later with well, all the knowledge of how to do it. In fact I can't even possibly imagine what the excuse would be.

Its still really interesting to me why people are so invested in believing this happened all those decades ago. The reality is this - the only evidence we have this happened is the word of the entity that has the most to gain from us believing they did it, and some grainy black and white footage that again, they provided us. There is no diversity at all in the evidence. By that I mean think about say, Edmund Hillary climbing Everest in 1953. Imagine he claimed to have done this back then yet still to this day, despite other people trying (and yes the Russians, the Chinese, the Indians and the "Europeans" either tried or have been trying), he was the only person still have done it - this would seem hard to believe. It would be his and Tenzing Norgays word and really that's it. However that's not the case. The second successful expedition was only 3 years later and since then over 6000 different people have done it. I think we can be sure it's been done - it's hard to imagine all these people across generations and cultures, ethnicities, walks of life conspired to make that up. Less hard to imagine one singular government organization.

But hey, I'll hold out to 2025 and this crewed mission. Absolutely impossible to get away with saying you did it when you didn't in the year 2025. As for your question as to why we suck so much these days as compared to 55 years ago? I dunno - no real plausible answer to that I guess.

Why am I not surprised Rojo believes in conspiracy theories

You shouldn't be, he's an idiot.

Funny enough, Astrobotic, the company behind the Peregine, is run by a friend of my wife from college. There are insane amounts of defense and robotics money slushing around schools like Carnegie Mellon, and that's a key difference between now and when we went to the Moon.

That's because NASA might have had bigger priorities than prooving the legitimacy of what they were doing numbskull conspiracy theorists.

how can you fly a spaceship to something that's not even there? It is just a projection, like the Bat Signal, probably.

These few people who said they went there, could be lying.

Space itself doesn't even exist. It's literally a thing that isn't there. If it were there, other things couldn't go through it.

Do some research, we never went to the moon... the space shuttles only achieved low earth orbit, the highest they ever got was 386 miles above earth. The moon is 238,000 miles 1 way. Let that sink in.

USA never landed on the moon. That was just a hoax to win the space race against Russia.

That 1969 ‘landing’ was done in a Hollywood studio. It has been analyzed in detail and proven to be a fake mission.

Americans believe anything the media tells them as it is truly (as Green Day said) ‘one nation controlled by the media’.

Rojo,

There are huge differences between our current population and our population from 55 years ago. Our attitudes toward science, education, ethics, work and critical thinking were so much higher 55 years ago.

Just as one example, could you imagine 55 years ago us electing as president a man so ignorant as to think magnets would be destroyed by water.

Yet today that kind of ignorance in our leaders is just accepted.

That is why they could land men on the moon and we can't.

Younger coder appears not well educated.

What shape is the earth?

FloJo has had the 100/200 meter world record for 36 years..... Why cant we produce that agani!

This is a NASA funded private company attempt to land in the moon which is much different approach than what was done before.

space.com

Private Peregrine moon lander failure won't stop NASA's ambitious commercial lunar program

@SPACEdotcom

Despite anomalies experienced by the Peregrine lunar lander scientists are looking ahead to upcoming missions under NASA's Commercial Lunar Payload Services program.

Link:www.space.com/lunar-radio-astronomy-pe...

What shape is the earth?

Where do you come up with this nonsense? I'm legitimately impressed that you believe this.

The Space Space shuttles were called Orbiter for a reason. That's what they were designed to do. Take things up and retrieve things in low Earth orbit. How does that support your argument?

And the Pentagon was completed in 16 months. Can't imagine how long it would take today.