Seriously, what single human has advocated for the death of even a single trans person?
Most people who dislike the trans movement are upset because it hurts the people who identify as trans. Transgender is sold as a solution to people's mental health issues. If only you were the opposite gender, you'd be happy. It's a lie. Now, there are exceptions - people who thrive after medical/surgical transition - but they are exceptions and not the rule.
I have lived with 4 transgender people in my life. Invariably, they had serious mental illness. None could hold jobs, and all blamed their joblessness on transphobia. Three of them pursued medical/surgical transition. One of the three is thriving as a "non-binary". Her dad part-owns a major league baseball team - so she had access to the top doctors and surgeons. The other two can't hold a job. Both blame their life failures on transphobia, but they live in a liberal community where EVERYONE cheers them on for their trans bravery. In reality, the reason they don't have jobs is they can't get to work on time, and if they do, they cause a scene.
You are not so ignorant as this.
Have you even read any threads here, including some of the current ones, where people claim trans people are a Jewish conspiracy to destroy Western civilization, or say flat out that they should all be thrown in mental institutions or killed? They are not just trolls, and even if some specific ones were, it's not just here that people characterize trans people as "groomers" and child molesters and say they should be executed brutally. For what crime? For acknowledging that they would have been better off had they been able to transition at a young age, and wanting that for the children of today who are like them, who need what they needed. That's not anything like what they are accused of.
Transgender surgeries, for properly vetted patients, are some of the least-regretted surgeries on record. Some trans people go from suicidal before transition to thriving afterward. More go from managing but miserable to thriving. That's less visible, and you might wish to disregard it, but it's no less real.
Some don't thrive afterward, though usually they don't regret transitioning either. I've seen people like that just as you have -- though I've seen more who do thrive. I think the culture of much of the transgender community, where victim status is a trump card in every argument and the answer to everything wrong in one's life, has much to answer for here.
This needs more emphasis, I believe, in transgender mental health care, although it's by no means ignored: transition does not solve every problem in a trans person's life. It does solve one big problem and make the others feel worth solving.
Please give me a specific citation of where someone said "trans people are a jewish consipracy to destroy western civilation."
I'm not arguing against transitioning for some people. As I said, 1 of the four people I lived with is doing well with transition. The other three are doing terribly. I'm advocating that medical and surgical transitions are quite drastic interventions I think people don't fully understand and many would be better off simply accepting the bodies they are born with.
Musk is a mentally unstable manchild. He has a lot of money and now has bought twitter. Without the money he inherited, he would probably be homess and babbling to people on a street corner or in a mental institution. Money is the only reason anyone thinks what he says is important. The same is true of Trump and a lot of other mentally unstable rich people. There are plenty of non conservatives in the same category, these were just two obvious names that fit this description.
Musk is an unstable manchild. Not a good person to be emulated. He also happens to be right on this particular issue.
There are about 50 million children between age 6 and 17 in the US. If 0.5% of them are transgender, that's about 250,000 children. Even if you limit them to 12-17, over 100,000 of them potentially have gender dysphoria. Should we be concerned that 4% of them are on hormone therapy?
I agree no one under 18 should be getting surgery. What benefit is there to have the surgery at 16 or 17 instead of 18?
There's no way to know exactly how many kids with sex/gender issues in the US have been put on exogenous cross-sex hormones (testosterone for females, estrogen for males) and/or powerful GnRHa analog drugs aka "puberty blockers" to halt their natural development. It could be many thousands, tens of thousands, or more than a hundred thousand.
A report released in 2022 by the Williams Institute, a think tank that does research promoting transgenderism and gender identity ideology at UCLA, said that based on national survey data from the CDC for 2019 and more limited survey data from some of the country from 2020, "300,000 youth ages 13-17 identify as transgender in the US"- or did in 2019-20.
The Reuter article linked above cites a research of insurance records that cover 40 million youths between age 6 and 17. (That's about 80% of the population of this age group.) They found 121,882 were identified as having gender dysphoria. That's about 0.3% of the entire samples. This does not count the patients who had been diagnosed before the five years covered by this study. It also excludes the other 20% of this age group not included in the study.
Out of 121,882, 4,780 received puberty blockers (3.9%) and 14,726 received cross hormone treatment (12.1%). In other words, 84% of all the patients who were identified as having gender dysphoria received neither puberty blockers nor cross hormone treatment. This is very different from the popular narrative in the media that kids are given hormone after cursory assessment. Those cases do exist, but they are few and far between.
It seems a reasonable solution is to enforce more strict guidelines for providing medication rather than banning the practice completely.
WPATH already has a standard of care that was just revised last year. We should let the professional take care of the issue and uninformed politicians should get out of it.
But no matther how many confused, vulnerable kids are on these drugs, in my view it's too many. Because the fact is, these drugs have powerful, irreversible, worrying short- and longeterm effects on the health and wellbeing of the children taking them - such as sterility, reduced bone density, worsening depression, increased urges to self-harm, and sexual dysfunction.
Particularly alarming is the sexual dysfunction - or rather lack of any kind of sexual funtion - experienced by males put on the standard regimen of "youth gender medicine" in early adolescence the way America's "trans poster child" Jazz Jennings was.
The New York Times recently published an article expressing grave concern about the use of puberty blockers to treat gender dysphoria in transgender adolescents. Unfortunately, the reporting ignored e
Besides the parents, doctors who do this should lose their licenses. It's as harmful as, say, elective amputation.
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even a consenting adult would not likely convince a doctor to cut off their arm without a genuine medical necessity
Isn't this the guy who parented a transgender child?
I wouldn't say he parented her.
Besides, the evidence indicates that transgender people are transgender before they ever come out of the womb -- they may just take a long time (or not such a long time) to figure it out.
What utter nonsense.
Yeah, right, so gender is a "social construct" but babies can be transgender in the womb?
Besides, the evidence indicates that transgender people are transgender before they ever come out of the womb -- they may just take a long time (or not such a long time) to figure it out.
What utter nonsense.
Yeah, right, so gender is a "social construct" but babies can be transgender in the womb?
Can you at least try to be coherent?
You're the one who is attributing to me positions I've never claimed to hold. Gender roles may differ by society, but gender identity, one's subconscious sense of self as male or female, is most likely innate and developed in the womb.
Your anti-trans caricature ignores the fact that encouraging and enabling anorexics to starve themselves destroys their lives, encouraging and enabling schizophrenics to follow their delusions destroys their lives, but encouraging and enabling trans people to transition and live as themselves makes their lives better. The conversion therapy and other forms of medical torture that many anti-trans activists falsely proclaim were not tried do not. (But then you can speak for yourself if you advocate something different.
This is not a novel experiment. Seven decades of trans people's lives, and the fact that transgender treatment has continued to exist, developed further, and earned its place despite huge opposition from the medical establishment for much of that time prove you wrong. That's because it works.
Isn't this the guy who parented a transgender child?
I wouldn't say he parented her.
Besides, the evidence indicates that transgender people are transgender before they ever come out of the womb -- they may just take a long time (or not such a long time) to figure it out.
Yeah, right, so gender is a "social construct" but babies can be transgender in the womb?
Can you at least try to be coherent?
You're the one who is attributing to me positions I've never claimed to hold. Gender roles may differ by society, but gender identity, one's subconscious sense of self as male or female, is most likely innate and developed in the womb.
Male and female are sex categories.
Gender is all the external environmental/cultural things we associate with those categories.
You cannot have a "gender identity" in the womb as you haven't yet been exposed to any form of culture or social environment.
i suppose if you are a book burning, homophobic, xenophobe who wants to white wash history and hates science its a lovely place to indoctrinate your kids
