I think you completely wrong to put so much focus on a general studies degree. Honestly, I think it's better to quit school and re-group and not waste the time and money.
As far as thinking that sitting in a class room is somehow indicative of someone's work ethic, that's pure BS. Nobody is going to get anything out of a class where you have zero interest, it has zero relevancy to your life or goals, so of course they will be unmotivated.
You are just falling into the trap of thinking "any college degree" is better than none, and you couldn't be more wrong.
no one here really thinks not getting a degree is some kind of moral or personal failure. It's more a pragmatic thing. if the professional runner thing doesn't work out, he'll have, his high school degree to fall back on? Maybe that and his parent's money. Even if being a pro runner does work out, he'll be done by 30 and then what?
Is he now banned from ever going to college now? Did I miss something? If at age 32 he decides to get a degree in something can that not happen now?
They're shopping apartments in Boulder and shocked at the idea of paying $4000-7000 monthly while at the same time griping about the places not being spacious enough even though they look new inside. The three youngest ones have no obvious income channels outside of Deion, so it's got to be some massive allowance that pays for their stuff. The youngest bailed on her college basketball team mid-season to follow Deion to Boulder, she was never recruited P5 so it's all but clear that she'll play for the Buffs. It does show where her commitment lies, the coach and teammates who gave her a chance at Jackson State don't factor at all. In contrast, the Culpeppers surely don't have Sanders level of wealth so they can't do this for their kids.
Had a feeling this interview would get a thread! I thought Cruz articulated himself well and although many of us may have really enjoyed our college experiences, that is not necessarily the case for everyone. Many talented high school athletes go straight to the pros - he actually gave it a try and ultimately determined it wasn't the right fit. If he was European no one would blink at this.
And while I agree that 4:00 isn't what it used to be, he ran it indoors in February 2020. Who knows how fast he'd have gone that spring under normal circumstances?
I am sure he could have predicted that running for his father would draw some criticism, but it sounds like Union was also interested. Given the number of coaches he's had in a few years and his desire to be back at altitude then it makes sense. Hoping it works out for him!
They're shopping apartments in Boulder and shocked at the idea of paying $4000-7000 monthly while at the same time griping about the places not being spacious enough even though they look new inside. The three youngest ones have no obvious income channels outside of Deion, so it's got to be some massive allowance that pays for their stuff. The youngest bailed on her college basketball team mid-season to follow Deion to Boulder, she was never recruited P5 so it's all but clear that she'll play for the Buffs. It does show where her commitment lies, the coach and teammates who gave her a chance at Jackson State don't factor at all. In contrast, the Culpeppers surely don't have Sanders level of wealth so they can't do this for their kids.
pics/videos?
Not intending to derail this thread, but since you ask... someone posted this to another thread yesterday:
Reminds me of Turtle and E and Johnny Drama in Entourage. You don't actually see them put their hands out in the videos, at least. Deion Jr is 29 and played football for SMU 2013-2016 before "launching" his own fashion brand, Well Off. Check out the URL: https://www.welloff.luxury/ It's a fxxxing joke, he has his half-brother's JSU jersey for sale and nothing else. He also relocated to Boulder to cover daddy on his channel:
Follow me, Shedeur Sanders aka 2 (TWO) as I give you an in depth look into my my life as a HBCU student, quarterback, son, brother, teammate and young man. I know you will enjoy this journey!
Only his oldest daughter doesn't live in daddy's immediate orbit, possibly because she was on reality shows on the merits of being Deion Sanders's daughter.
Not sure why we need all of the Cruz Culpepper back & forth on here when the bottom line is that more people with his PRs deserve to be running professionally & more people with better PRs than him deserve to make more.
Anyways, Stoner is a really good signing. 2:26-flat at CIM (CR, beat some good runners) after a 2:28 @ Marathon Project. Has to be a trials threat in 2024.
Hey yo lapdog, the announcement got the thread. Your interview was a nice addition to the discussion that was already happening. Also, if he was European few here would have heard of him and fewer would be discussing him.
2. The NCAA is not the best system for improving middle-long distance running, despite all the arguments about needing to be a good student or whatever. I remember an interview with Jakob Ingerbritsen or maybe his dad where they were talking about the huge amount of negatives associated with middle and long distance racing in the NCAA. Too many meets prevent the type of sustainable athletic development required of middle and long distance races.
There arent' too many NCAA meets. A top NCAA mid-d runner literally has to do 5 meets a year.
Indoor NCAA conference. Indoor NCAAs.
Outdoor NCAA confercence. Regionals. NCAAs.
Oh if they do xc, add three more. So that's 8. And to be honest, they probably need one qualifier in indoor and outoor. That's 10 meets.
Ingebrigtsen raced in something like 12 different competitions last year.
How many times did Jakob peak last year? NCAA athletes may peak for conference or regionals or nationals three times a year before trying to do it for USAs and potentially even World's or Olympics.
There arent' too many NCAA meets. A top NCAA mid-d runner literally has to do 5 meets a year.
Indoor NCAA conference. Indoor NCAAs.
Outdoor NCAA confercence. Regionals. NCAAs.
Oh if they do xc, add three more. So that's 8. And to be honest, they probably need one qualifier in indoor and outoor. That's 10 meets.
Ingebrigtsen raced in something like 12 different competitions last year.
How many times did Jakob peak last year? NCAA athletes may peak for conference or regionals or nationals three times a year before trying to do it for USAs and potentially even World's or Olympics.
Those good enough to advance beyond USAs aren't peaking for either conference or regionals. Those good enough to get into USAs aren't peaking for conference. Don't assume.
I know this is Letsrun but there is so much speculation and hypocrisy in this thread.
There have been countless threads over the years saying how the NCAA system stifles development in our best athletes blah blah blah. Now all of a sudden the NCAA is the best thing for this kid? Give me a break.
There are threads ripping talented kids who give up running to focus on college. This is the opposite of that, yet there are posters RIPPING this kid.
There have been threads RIPPING NAZ Elite over the years for plenty of reasons.
And, like virtually every running contract out there, WE DON'T KNOW THE TERMS. Maybe Cruz isn't getting any money, and the deal was that his parents had to support him until he runs a truly elite time. MAYBE this was Ben Rosario's idea!
I hope Cruz goes on to run 3:45 in the mile and wins a global medal and leads a happy and fulfilling life.
Since you're responding to my post, I never said the NCAA system is necessarily the best thing for this individual. If there have been threads "ripping talented kids who give up running to focus on college" then I've missed them entirely. I see a lot of benefits to the NCAA system, which someone like Alan Webb conceivably could have used to his ultimate benefit like his teammate Nick Willis has. It might also be that, like Webb, Cruz just picked the wrong spot(s) to take his shot and crapped out and now has found his best option coming out of that. The NCAA system is archaic and imperfect and isn't really built to be forgiving in a lot of individual situations. Some folks are so in love with nostalgia for their own rosy collegiate experience that they overlook that. Someone like Erin Finn was somehow able to compete for something like six years, but what of it? I'm sure she has positive feelings about her experience that she could parlay into a grad degree. Despite the hue and cry to the contrary, she's the type of person that should be kept in the college system given extenuating circumstances. If Cruz didn't come from a background with affluent resources, he might have just washed right out and quit the sport. I had really talented teammates that happened to, once they were off the team they had no connection to the sport. We can be glad he had a lifeline at this point, good for him. Maybe nothing more comes of it but let's allow him that chance and support his way forward. It's good when talent is given a few chances to get it right, so long as they aren't really hurting anyone else.
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