He was a 1:44.3h 800m runner from the 1972 trials when he won Olympic gold with his come from behind 1:45.86.
It was not a slow race. The first lap was quicker than the second lap by the leaders. Wottle ran even splits. It was only a second and a half off the wr and at 1.45.86 that puts it in 1.46 territory. That looks pretty world-class even today - and even if 1.46 isn't a championship medalling time today it's good enough to be competing in the DL.
The Dutch youngster would have been faster than Amos (a doper) and Murphy in that final. Are they "world class"?
Centro won Olympic gold in 3:50
I guess my 3:48 makes me world class, according to your logic.
It would if 1.46 was a dawdle comparable to 3.50 - but it isn't. The point I make is that 1.46 remains a fast 800m time even today, and is not like the kind of race that was the 1500m in Rio (which was barely the same as that recorded in the 1932 Olympics). The point is about times, not medals alone.
The Dutch youngster would have been faster than Amos (a doper) and Murphy in that final. Are they "world class"?
Amos 1:41.73
Murphy 1:42.93
Laros 1:46.3 which was canceld
No, he wouldn't have beaten Amos and Murphy. He would not have reached the final at all.
So far Laros has not reached world class level in any event. Let's wait for next season.
Amos ran 1.46.4 in that final and Murphy ran 1.46.5. The Dutch youngster has reportedly run 1.46.3. So he was faster than both of them when they were competing in an Olympic final.
No, he wouldn't have beaten Amos and Murphy. He would not have reached the final at all.
So far Laros has not reached world class level in any event. Let's wait for next season.
Amos ran 1.46.4 in that final and Murphy ran 1.46.5. The Dutch youngster has reportedly run 1.46.3. So he was faster than both of them when they were competing in an Olympic final.
You said he would have been faster in this final than those two, but he wouldn't.
Amos ran 1.46.4 in that final and Murphy ran 1.46.5. The Dutch youngster has reportedly run 1.46.3. So he was faster than both of them when they were competing in an Olympic final.
You said he would have been faster in this final than those two, but he wouldn't.
In terms of times alone he was. I am not arguing that he could have been an Olympic finalist, only that some of the finalists recorded slower times than his best so far. 1.46 is not a championship winning time today but it is good enough to compete internationally. (And at 17.) I would call that world class.
You said he would have been faster in this final than those two, but he wouldn't.
In terms of times alone he was. I am not arguing that he could have been an Olympic finalist, only that some of the finalists recorded slower times than his best so far. 1.46 is not a championship winning time today but it is good enough to compete internationally. (And at 17.) I would call that world class.
Your original statement to the topic was different.
In terms of times alone he was. I am not arguing that he could have been an Olympic finalist, only that some of the finalists recorded slower times than his best so far. 1.46 is not a championship winning time today but it is good enough to compete internationally. (And at 17.) I would call that world class.
Your original statement to the topic was different.
Not top 130 this season. No, not world class.
You misunderstood what I was saying. I haven't changed my point. 1.46 can regularly be seen in international competition even today. It isn't a slow time. So in that sense it is "world class" if not sufficient for championship medalling.
The Dutch youngster would have been faster than Amos (a doper) and Murphy in that final. Are they "world class"?
Centro won Olympic gold in 3:50
I guess my 3:48 makes me world class, according to your logic.
1.46 is faster than Herb Elliott ran. He was a 3.35 runner. So it is nowhere near comparable to Centro's 3.50. Probably closer to 3.37 at least. (That's also Cheptegei's best).
Your original statement to the topic was different.
Not top 130 this season. No, not world class.
You misunderstood what I was saying. I haven't changed my point. 1.46 can regularly be seen in international competition even today. It isn't a slow time. So in that sense it is "world class" if not sufficient for championship medalling.
No, it is not slow. But (a questionable) 1:46.3 isn't any indication that the athlete is WORLD CLASS. For a 17 yo who also has achieved great times up to 3000m it's absolutely remarkable - but not world class.
You misunderstood what I was saying. I haven't changed my point. 1.46 can regularly be seen in international competition even today. It isn't a slow time. So in that sense it is "world class" if not sufficient for championship medalling.
No, it is not slow. But (a questionable) 1:46.3 isn't any indication that the athlete is WORLD CLASS. For a 17 yo who also has achieved great times up to 3000m it's absolutely remarkable - but not world class.
Yet it remains faster than performances from athletes we acknowledge are world class - like Amos and Murphy. As I said, it is also less than half a second slower than Wottle's winning time in Munich and would have put him in the middle of the pack in an Olympic 800m final. But I guess they weren't "world class" then.
No, it is not slow. But (a questionable) 1:46.3 isn't any indication that the athlete is WORLD CLASS. For a 17 yo who also has achieved great times up to 3000m it's absolutely remarkable - but not world class.
Yet it remains faster than performances from athletes we acknowledge are world class - like Amos and Murphy. As I said, it is also less than half a second slower than Wottle's winning time in Munich and would have put him in the middle of the pack in an Olympic 800m final. But I guess they weren't "world class" then.
Why aren't you accusing the 10 year old girl from the other thread of doping?