Moving for 4 hours straight regardless of pace is still a tremendous stress for someone who is "hurt".
When you consider the race had 6400' ft of climbing, all technical terrain, all above 7600' that is TREMENDOUS stress.
I would say that is the equivalent stress of her doing 20 miles at 6 min pace. If not more.
17 miles at 15:00 pace is harder than 20 miles at 6:00 pace just because it's hilly? Yeah, no. Not sure how the altitude is relevant either, for one she lives at that altitude and for another that's only stressing her cardiovascular, which is a good thing if you're trying to maintain fitness while recovering from injury.
Tell me you have never done a run with over 1000' of gain or ran above 8000' without telling me you have never done it.
maybe this is something she can do that doesn't aggravate her injury? I listened to former CU Allie McLaughlin (Mtn runner) on a Skype Broadcast, she stated, "This is one way she would stay in shape without compromising fitness or making her injury worst....she was able to do the Manitou Springs Incline and vertical climbs around Pikes Peak without pain to her injury. Just a thought
maybe this is something she can do that doesn't aggravate her injury? I listened to former CU Allie McLaughlin (Mtn runner) on a Skype Broadcast, she stated, "This is one way she would stay in shape without compromising fitness or making her injury worst....she was able to do the Manitou Springs Incline and vertical climbs around Pikes Peak without pain to her injury. Just a thought
I actually agree. I do think there are benefits to long trails runs with big elevation gain to gain strength as a few people as mentioned.
I think the lack of transparency is what most people are upset. Why enter a race? Why use a fake name? Why does it disagree with what you have been posting about your training and injury on instragram? Why did you do this instead of the world champs?
This whole thing would be avoided with one post clarifying that.
People may disagree but I think being a professional means being straightforward and transparent.
If you are not an ultra or trail runner I understand completely how it is hard to believe how 17 miles at 14:30 pace is taxing.
But trust me, 6400' over just 17 miles is brutal. The amount of impact descending that amount has on the legs is a ton. Factor in how high of elevation it is too.
Absolutely massive effort regardless.
Maybe for you, and sounds like you've never run fast times and certainly not elite.
I do back to back long runs on the weekends longer than that and I find it way easier on the body than serious marathon training. 4 hours on the trails, even with a ton of climbing and decent, has for me been an injury cure. I highly recommend long trail runs - which I started doing due to injuries caused by road running. The repetitiveness of long runs on the road gave me endless injuries that trail running never has.
Facts. I started to really focus on trails just for my general easy runs and even during a marathon cycle I'll have to cut out some of my more marathon specific long runs due to my body getting to beat and feel a injury coming on with too many road miles. Plus a trail race feels more like a adventure and is different enough to provide a a different challenge compared to road running/track/XC. And believe me if you don't think that mountain trail running is hard and easy compared track/roads, sign up for a mountain trail race and prepared to be humbled.
Yup, my first proper trail race I was in 17:30 shape, which I know is not fast, but my point is, it was a half marathon race with over 2k of gain. I went out way to hard and had to walk or fast hike many of the steeper inclines. The technicality of the terrain also exhausted my legs and hips that were mainly used to road runs. I ended up getting spanked by people with 19 minute 5k prs. It was humbling.
I kind of doubted this, but then I went and watched the video and that's either her or her perfect doppelgänger! Seems like a bad idea given her recent injuries
Molly used fake name and ran SpeedGoat over the weekend. She finished the race in 4:13 for eighth. She can be spotted in the race start video starting well back in the field while holding a pair of trekking poles.
Extremely bizarre decision after a supposed recent stress fracture.
maybe this is something she can do that doesn't aggravate her injury? I listened to former CU Allie McLaughlin (Mtn runner) on a Skype Broadcast, she stated, "This is one way she would stay in shape without compromising fitness or making her injury worst....she was able to do the Manitou Springs Incline and vertical climbs around Pikes Peak without pain to her injury. Just a thought
This is incredibly sad. We are viewing mental illness before our very eyes and it is being played out in public. We are all searching for reasons. Why say your hurt if your not? Why use a fake name? Why make up stories on an airplane? Why claim that you’re being stalked on strava? All of her stuff does not add up for a reason. We are trying to come up with logical solutions for illogical behavior. Let’s leave Molly alone and let her sort things out.
Yeah... The more you talk the less we all realize you actually have any idea what you're talking about. Stick to the tarmac bud. "Not sure how altitude is relevant" Lololol
This is incredibly sad. We are viewing mental illness before our very eyes and it is being played out in public. We are all searching for reasons. Why say your hurt if your not? Why use a fake name? Why make up stories on an airplane? Why claim that you’re being stalked on strava? All of her stuff does not add up for a reason. We are trying to come up with logical solutions for illogical behavior. Let’s leave Molly alone and let her sort things out.
As a fan, this is so disappointing. But this is what mental illness is capable of doing, and it doesn’t make sense to us and probably doesn’t to her either. It’s hard to understand why someone would lie about these things if you have never had a mental illness yourself. It can really mess with your reality/mind. It does no good for us to analyze why she would lie about these things. But at the end of the day, the most important thing is that she is working on getting better. I hope she takes some time off competitive running to figure this out. But, again, I can’t help but repeat that supporting an honest and open athlete is so much easier and better for our sport. Good luck to her, though.
I see that the results have now been posted. Looks like Molly Shapiro had a nice hike. I don't understand why she would use a fake now when at least some people would obviously know who she was.
Any of the three could be true and I still don't know why she would choose to run in a public race with a fake name. If she wanted to get a solid trail run in, she easily could have found someone to run/guide her on a similar workout without any publicity. Irrespective of whether it's shady or deceptive, it's just a bizarre decision.
Her boyfriend was photographing the event and she was out there on a trip with him. If I had to construct a scenario around what we know, it sounds like it was a last minute decision to run just because she was there and it seemed fun, and that she thought running under a fake name would avoid publicity and the "official-ness" of having the result attached to her name. Seems just generally poorly thought out
Not sure if this was posted already but she ran as Molly Shapiro, a 28 F (also her age) and Molly Shapiro wore bid 1260 which matches the photo previously posted.