Wait I thought knobbs or whatever broke this last year? also thought the best ever hs distance runner was sulimon?
Wait I thought knobbs or whatever broke this last year? also thought the best ever hs distance runner was sulimon?
Was this in fact a ‘full mile’ race? Or 1600 meters being just called “Boys One Mile Run” - Just say’in because often they do that. PIAA competition is run at 1600 meters, not a full English mile true? If this is the case then you’ve got to add another 9 meters and adjust the time to around 3:58 high or 3:59 low!
But still no comparison. Jim Ryun ran 3:58.3 on a dirt track in crap shoes over half a century ago. Kudos to Martin however.
Haven’t found the entire race video yet but here’s the finish
Philadelphia Catholic League Championship is always a Mile. 5 pages in and you are still asking if it was a full mile.
He’s going to NB Outdoors (which is close to home so I get it). I guess the hope is that Brooks PR can snag him and Sahlman which is several days before NB and Nike (where people are suggesting Sahlman may be running the 8?).
Forgot to add the source
Did any of you geniuses take a video of the entire race?
I thought he would stay local, I am not big on set ups in these National Meets, but, maybe they could get someone who could go thru in 1:57.5 or so for yards..It is really hard to get a HS guy who can run that evenly and do it right. You probably have to be a 1:52/3 guy to be able to do that without f'ing it up?
Congratulations to the young man.
However...there is NO comparison between his performance and Ryun's 3:58.3. Ryun's mark was set on a CINDER TRACK, in the famous KANSAS WINDS with 1965 shoe "technology". Ryun would've run 3:51 or better under the same situation as young Mr. Gary in HS by himself.
This is freakishly inappropriate, but I love it.
Point noted, but keep in mind this was part of his routine meet day of 3:57 / 1:50 /49 and he did it at the Catholic schools league meet. No tumbleweed just broken glass and drive-by shootings on 'the streets of Philadelphia'. Martin is old school, only love and respect for Congressman Ryun.
Stop with the exxagerations of what he actually ran, many have done this already.
He did not run 3:57
he ran 3:57.98 or a snap of the fingers from 3:58.0 much closer to that than the 3:57 referenced tons of times already, he did not run 1:50 either, he ran 1:51.29
Is is that hard to list the correct times, especially when comparing marks from recent and yesteryear?
When did it become fashionable to drop of the decimal parts of the times? In the old days if someone ran 3:59.4 it was always read back as 3:59.4. Nowadays it's 3:59. David Rudisha ran 1:40.91 for 800 meters. Why not say he ran 1:40? It's obvious why. It ain't the same.
Somebody ought to get Martin a "Vote for Pedro" t-shirt!
I too liked like a nerd in high school but this kid is bad-ass!
This shows again why signing people on the basis of their junior year performances makes no sense.
Congrats! Lets remember that Ryun did his in a Kansas only meet and won by 23 seconds. Biggest difference was the track. Dirt.
When did it become fashionable to drop of the decimal parts of the times? In the old days if someone ran 3:59.4 it was always read back as 3:59.4. Nowadays it's 3:59. David Rudisha ran 1:40.91 for 800 meters. Why not say he ran 1:40? It's obvious why. It ain't the same.
I could not agree more. So true, and after a while , and it is a frigging while on these boards, it is annoying, especially when the mark run is closer to the next highest full second, not the lower number used. Which is almost every time on here. In a sport measured down to the hundreths a lot....dropping the .98 here is deceiving
Most will say.."What is the big deal."
Well, just in this event alone..there are two other Hs'ers who ran faster 3:57.xx's...just indoors, one with pacing help, in fact I think both were not in HS only races. This mark is clearly closer to 3:58.o which is obvious and in the old days would have been rounded up to that in any record keeping effort, right?
He ran 4:03 as a junior. He was already elite.
Well, that's obviously a newfangled habit to say time in minutes, seconds, and tenths anyway. When Roger Bannister ran 3:59.4, it was read out as three minutes, ..., and then no one ever heard anything else.