War declared: Austria to force-vaccinate everyone by February 2022

Antivaxxer-s killing democracy wrote:

hq wrote:

Who is going to do it? You? Just try it.

I meant smacked around by mandates and businesses issuing mandates of their own. Making it law like Austria has would then be the next step. No one is proposing to physically grab these people and inject them. This tough guy/patriot act from antivaxxers shows such a hilarious lack of self-awareness, no one can take these people seriously.

You are talking out of your as$. Austria hasn't made it law.

What is hilarious is your tough guy talk when you are scared of living.

Heres a cool little factoid for everyone......

"Austrian law allows firearm possession on shall-issue basis with certain classes of shotguns and rifles available without permit. With approximately 30 civilian firearms per 100 people, Austria is the 14th most armed country in the world."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_Austria

Harambe wrote:

Austria is more vax-terrified than the USA.

Sadly when much of your population is so dumb you have 2 choices:

1) Mandate the vax

2) deny healthcare services to the unvaxxed

1) is more ethical.

3) Concentration camp.

hq wrote:

Antivaxxer-s killing democracy wrote:

I meant smacked around by mandates and businesses issuing mandates of their own. Making it law like Austria has would then be the next step. No one is proposing to physically grab these people and inject them. This tough guy/patriot act from antivaxxers shows such a hilarious lack of self-awareness, no one can take these people seriously.

You are talking out of your as$. Austria hasn't made it law.

What is hilarious is your tough guy talk when you are scared of living.

It's a formality, it will pass; just like the lockdowns for the unvaccinated did as well.

I live as freely as I did before the pandemic now thanks to the vaccines; the only thing that's changed is having to comply with mask requirements in certain areas, which I don't find particularly bothersome because I am not a hypocrite like those clownish "patriots" who call others snowflakes but b!tch and moan about trivially inconvenient measures designed to protect the public.

Can't wait till the day antivaxxers are compelled, while b!tching and moaning, to get vaccinated one way or the other.

Antivaxxer-s killing democracy wrote:

hq wrote:

Who is going to do it? You? Just try it.

I meant smacked around by mandates and businesses issuing mandates of their own. Making it law like Austria has would then be the next step. No one is proposing to physically grab these people and inject them. This tough guy/patriot act from antivaxxers shows such a hilarious lack of self-awareness, no one can take these people seriously.

Perhaps The Netherlands didn’t take their people seriously either.

Austrian wrote:

Of course nobody will be "held down and needles put into them"... First there will be fines, last consequence as I already mentioned - nobody is forced to stay. We are a democratic country and I think the majority of people fully supports what our gov decided today. BTW, this is not the first time in history that vaccination was mandatory.

Still, there just is no other way out, unless better treatment will be available soon.

Pfizer has pill that is reportedly successful at treating COVID 89% of the time. It seems about ready to go on the market so there may well be a better treatment available soon.

In other posts you mention how Austrians who don't want the vaccine are free to leave. Are they? If countries have COVID restrictions where will they go? You'll deport them? How can country deport its own citizens? Yes, you could deport them if they're foreigners. And you'll just round them up and send them somewhere because they are breaking a law? I doubt that's possible but if it happens it's a very totalitarian thing.

Nothing is free wrote:

Heres a cool little factoid for everyone......

"Austrian law allows firearm possession on shall-issue basis with certain classes of shotguns and rifles available without permit. With approximately 30 civilian firearms per 100 people, Austria is the 14th most armed country in the world."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_Austria

Interesting...I wonder if they'll form underground resistance groups like the French did against Nazi occupation in WW2? 🤔

First time I've popped on here in a while. Damn brojos, take a look at your running message board's front page, what a gross little cesspit you've fostered.

* You made no mention in regard to the general point I was making that U.S. is a 1/2 billionaire & billionaire paradise.

* You bringing up cost shifting stating 50 Euro and no other health care expenses is actually false. You neglected to state, Austria does not have a Military Industrial Complex the size of U.S.' Even when broken down per capita. If Austrians felt the financial pain similar as U.S. citizens, Austrians would leave Austria and move to U.S. in order to one day live as a 1/2 billionaire or billionaire.

* F.A.F.S.A. is not just a form. It is a means testing form. If you read my posts, I explained. In U.S., basically F.A.F.S.A. is held over students heads as a threat to not be an activist. Activists sometimes are subject to felony criminal charges. Reagan, as CA governor stopped tuition free public university education for all in order to punish war activists and civil rights activists. I stated previously, in U.S. one has to demonstrate poverty. Education is not means tested in Austria. Did you really not understand?

* Term capitalist stooge: No need to be offended. Did I directly call you a capitalist stooge? I simply stated there are only roughly 650 billionaires in U.S. I simply stated there are only a few thousand billionaires in the world. Capitalist stooge is one who advocates for pure or near pure free market capitalism knowing that such a system is actually against one's personal interest. I may have asked you if you are a capitalist stooge.

This is my last post on this thread. No reason for you and I to take over O.P.'s thread. O.P. is afraid of a hard handed public health care policy that does not exist in AUT. If you start a thread on Comparative Economics, I will read what you have to say.

Antivaxxer-s killing democracy wrote:

Heia Norge! wrote:

Your don't know what democracy is.

Wrong. Democracy does not mean you get to do what ever the f#$k you want to do; it comes with responsibilities and limits on the freedoms you have. Antivaxxers are not discriminated against or oppressed when they're targeted for not getting vaccinated: antivaxxer is not a protected class and the choice to be one can have consequences for other people and society; and yes, this is with the primacy of the individual withstanding.

Only an idiot with compare public health measures to tyranny or Nazism, and there unfortunately there is no shortage of them these days.

This person gets it. +1000

When the science clearly shows that vaxxed are just as vulnerable and contagious to the spread of covid as the unvaxxed, removing the civil rights of the unvaxxed is discrimination based on prior belief and personal animus, not public safety. No different than restrictions placed on Jews in Europe in the 1930s.

hq wrote:

Antivaxxers killing democracy wrote:

Antivaxxers need to be smacked around a bit until they comply and take the vaccine, or straight up be “coerced” into it.

Who is going to do it? You? Just try it.

The antivaxxers on LRC are apparently watching the world get consumed by fascism and have done nothing but cry online about it. Nobody is scared of the “resistance” you all will mount. It will be along the lines of a wet noodle, AKA slightly more robust than your act so far.

In the past there was 'Pocken' in Austria and the people were forced to get vaccinated. No big deal.

Get the idiots vaccinated. Get the idiots to use the safety belt of a car. Get the idiot to think ... the list is endless ...

I forgot to add one point. I wrote "the problem is a right wing party". But there are 3 types of unvaccinated people here. First the "i dont care, it is not my problem", this category now get their shots because you have a hard time without it. Second a group far left, guys who care about refugees and try to make kindergarden nannies go to the wood with their kids to educate them the real way. Third the far right who dont care about anyone except myself, "I want" "I" "I". Category 2 and 3 will never go because they live in a different reality, incl conspiracy. My hope is that category a is enough in combination with all the cured to bring us in endemic state.

Harambe wrote:

hq wrote:

Who is going to do it? You? Just try it.

The antivaxxers on LRC are apparently watching the world get consumed by fascism and have done nothing but cry online about it. Nobody is scared of the “resistance” you all will mount. It will be along the lines of a wet noodle, AKA slightly more robust than your act so far.

Why are you replying to me, fearmongering idiot?

I am not against vaccination.

dawnrunner wrote:

I forgot to add one point. I wrote "the problem is a right wing party". But there are 3 types of unvaccinated people here. First the "i dont care, it is not my problem", this category now get their shots because you have a hard time without it. Second a group far left, guys who care about refugees and try to make kindergarden nannies go to the wood with their kids to educate them the real way. Third the far right who dont care about anyone except myself, "I want" "I" "I". Category 2 and 3 will never go because they live in a different reality, incl conspiracy. My hope is that category a is enough in combination with all the cured to bring us in endemic state.

Like any other bigot, you are wrong.

great wrote:

In the past there was 'Pocken' in Austria and the people were forced to get vaccinated. No big deal.

Get the idiots vaccinated. Get the idiots to use the safety belt of a car. Get the idiot to think ... the list is endless ...

What if one day the government wants the "idiots" to have abortions because they think there are too many people already?

What if one day the government decides that it's a good idea to euthanise older people because they are a burden to society?

I am sure you will be screaming "Kill the unborns! "Kill the oldies!"

hq wrote:

Harambe wrote:

The antivaxxers on LRC are apparently watching the world get consumed by fascism and have done nothing but cry online about it. Nobody is scared of the “resistance” you all will mount. It will be along the lines of a wet noodle, AKA slightly more robust than your act so far.

Why are you replying to me, fearmongering idiot?

I am not against vaccination.

Harambe is an incel. The amount of time he's spending on this message board tells you he doesn't have anything better to do.