Professional linguists have a lot of groveling to do for their cowardice. They should have been explaining by 20 years ago that you can't change a language by trying to make other people say what you want them to.
This goes especially for the pretense that government has any authority over language usage. The "King's English" was invented by the English, not the king.
What's their excuse? The meaning of a word is outside their field? Nonsense, they fled the field. There are no linguists left.
I have often been "misgendered" (it's hard to tell my gender from my first name), and listing (he/his) would probably eliminate that problem... except I don't see it as a problem. Being called "Ms. Hobby Jogger" has never annoyed me. I wouldn't even correct them unless it is necessary. In other words, it's not a big deal to me. (I could be "agender" although I haven't really thought about that.)
But I know it is a big deal to some other people. So I try to use the pronouns they prefer. If I misgender someone, I would just say "sorry, I didn't know that." If anyone cannot accept a simple apology and move on, that person has a problem other than his/her/their gender identity.
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
I have often been "misgendered" (it's hard to tell my gender from my first name), and listing (he/his) would probably eliminate that problem... except I don't see it as a problem. Being called "Ms. Hobby Jogger" has never annoyed me. I wouldn't even correct them unless it is necessary. In other words, it's not a big deal to me. (I could be "agender" although I haven't really thought about that.)
But I know it is a big deal to some other people. So I try to use the pronouns they prefer. If I misgender someone, I would just say "sorry, I didn't know that." If anyone cannot accept a simple apology and move on, that person has a problem other than his/her/their gender identity.
in reading a few of the links on the subject, your approach is exactly what they advocate, so good for you. It says, mistakes do happen, and when they do, just lightly say your sorry, that you didn't intend for the mistake. And it says, don't make a big deal out of it, either. Simple enough.
Further, they say if you hear someone else make a mistake, to gently inform them and likewise, move on.
It does say, however, to repeatedly ignore or call them by the wrong pronouns isn't okay,
I guess that the takeaway is, mistakes may happen and when they do, acknowledge it and hopefully get it right next time. But to willfully ignore or mislabel someone's preferred pronouns isn't in keeping with the spirit of the prescribed societal norms and etiquette.
seattle prattle wrote:
It does say, however, to repeatedly ignore or call them by the wrong pronouns isn't okay,
I guess that the takeaway is, mistakes may happen and when they do, acknowledge it and hopefully get it right next time. But to willfully ignore or mislabel someone's preferred pronouns isn't in keeping with the spirit of the prescribed societal norms and etiquette.
These are not "prescribed norms," they are forced speech under the duress of threatened cancellation, and you know it.
Using language factually is no "mistake." This Orwellian society of yours is doomed to collapse.
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I do. I list them as he/ she they just to aggitate you snowflake conservatives.
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