Colin Powell Dies of COVID

Cultists are slipping up and admitting it was the preexisting conditions that killed him, not the virus. Don't let them walk it back.

My mother died of MM. She had C difficile at time of death. But that's not what killed her. She died because the MM made it imposible for her body to fight off an infection that is otherwise becoming more manageable.

Powell had Covid when he died. He died because his MM kept his body from fighting off the infection. You may write the infection as the "cause of death," but that doesn't negate the fact that it was the cancer that allowed the infection to kill him.

There's a BIG difference between what you write as 'cause of death" on a form, and the reason why a person died.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Cultists are slipping up and admitting it was the preexisting conditions that killed him, not the virus. Don't let them walk it back.

Anti-vaxxers are slipping up and dmititng that vaccinated people only get sick and die when they have pre-existing conditions. Don't let them walk it back.

I have known a number of people with late stage cancer (two who had been treated for leukemia for over ten years, one being treated for stage 4 breast cancer that caused multiple myeloma, one with stage 4 colon cancer) who have died since COVID took place. I would not point to a single death as being caused by COVID, even though they may have had COVID during their battle with cancer.

kibitzer wrote:

comedyre1:3f wrote:

84 years old, multiple bouts of cancer, but obviously it was COVID that killed him?

Apparently, yes.

Strangely enough, there are these "doctor" people who, through a combination of education, training, and experience are able to make such determinations with a pretty good, though not perfect, level of accuracy.

Doctors will put more information than is necessary into a chart because they don't want to get sued for leaving something out. Plus, when a doctor's boss tells them to make a mention of COVID in the death certificate any time an individual has COVID, they will do it.

Uprising wrote:

Basic Public Health Ignored wrote:

Its also illustrative of the consequences of society not taking basic non-pharmaceutical interventions seriously. Couple that with poor vaccination rates and you get widespread disease even with an effective vaccine.

If the disease were 10x less prevalent (lets say) because society had any common sense, its likely susceptible people like General Powell would not encounter it.

If you have widespread disease and many unvaccinated, even excellent vaccines won't solve the problem.

If you have controlled disease and most people vaccinated, even a so-so vaccine will do the job.

Vaccines have no effect (in fact some positive effect) on transmission.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7

This virus is now endemic. Accept that like many other countries have.

84-year olds are going to die as they always have, virus or not.

Scamdemic of The Vaccinators.

I am in the Life Sciences field but I am not familiar with the works of Akhil Kumar or S. V. Subramanian. I noticed that they omitted France, the UK, and Germany – all of which have shown a huge drop in COVID-19 rates as a result of high vaccine uptake. Any ideas on why they proceeded in this manner?

Their methodology would likely receive harsh critique from the science community at large just based on this alone never-mind other red flags such as focusing on cases but not hospitalizations/ICU and mortality rates.

comedyre1:3f wrote:

I have known a number of people with late stage cancer (two who had been treated for leukemia for over ten years, one being treated for stage 4 breast cancer that caused multiple myeloma, one with stage 4 colon cancer) who have died since COVID took place. I would not point to a single death as being caused by COVID, even though they may have had COVID during their battle with cancer.

I think they're talking about "what you'd write on the sheet at the hospital, vs. what we know about why they actually died.

I'd hope that these doctors aren't walking around ascribing "cause of death" without any context.

comedyre1:3f wrote:

Doctors will put more information than is necessary into a chart because they don't want to get sued for leaving something out. Plus, when a doctor's boss tells them to make a mention of COVID in the death certificate any time an individual has COVID, they will do it.

Wrong.

If a blind guy step into the street and gets hit by a bus, cause of death would be Blunt Force Trauma.

The reason for his death would be the blindness, not the bus.

If COVID killed him, it killed him. It's the technical cause of death. But the reason WHY it killed him is because he had no defense against it.

comedyre1:3f wrote:

I have known a number of people with late stage cancer (two who had been treated for leukemia for over ten years, one being treated for stage 4 breast cancer that caused multiple myeloma, one with stage 4 colon cancer) who have died since COVID took place. I would not point to a single death as being caused by COVID, even though they may have had COVID during their battle with cancer.

No one who knows what they're talking about is calling COVID a cause of death simply because the patient had COVID during their battle with cancer. But if someone who has MM literally dies of COVID pneumonia, then yes, COVID is the cause of death. Same is true if they die of influenza.

I'm not sure why people act like this is some kind of attempt to obfuscate. What could be more accurate than saying that the patient died of COVID pneumonia in the setting of advanced MM if that is, in fact, the case?

umm, nope wrote:

comedyre1:3f wrote:

Doctors will put more information than is necessary into a chart because they don't want to get sued for leaving something out. Plus, when a doctor's boss tells them to make a mention of COVID in the death certificate any time an individual has COVID, they will do it.

Wrong.

If a blind guy step into the street and gets hit by a bus, cause of death would be Blunt Force Trauma.

The reason for his death would be the blindness, not the bus.

If COVID killed him, it killed him. It's the technical cause of death. But the reason WHY it killed him is because he had no defense against it.

Another good post from you.

umm, nope wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Cultists are slipping up and admitting it was the preexisting conditions that killed him, not the virus. Don't let them walk it back.

Anti-vaxxers are slipping up and dmititng that vaccinated people only get sick and die when they have pre-existing conditions. Don't let them walk it back.

95% of the unvaccinated deaths "from" Covid are among people with at least two deadly pre-existing conditions.

The fact is Powel was on his way out and the vaxx did nothing to help him.

For those who have never seen or filled out a death certificate, it's not a one-line-statement...

Most states have a specific document that will have a list of causes and predisposing factors on there so you can collect all the necessary data for public health and policy making. So his cause of death will probably say "acute respiratory failure, due to COVID-19, in the setting of multiple myeloma and Parkinson's".

(The same applied when someone dies of the flu or pneumonia...etc.) Obviously, some doctors are not the best at paperwork or documenting and might not fill out the certificate with all the necessary information to make it accurate / useful.

Basically, summing up what other posters have already said on this thread (that he had specific reasons why COVID would cause his death). The media will report the immediate cause of death as noted in the headlines people posted (that's another story all together...)

The Unkle wrote:

The fact is Powel was on his way out and the vaxx did nothing to help him.

On that point, you are CORRECT!

Vaccines are not magic. They rely on the body's ability to create antibodies.

If a blind man’s cat walks out into the street and gets hit by a bus. The cause of death would be Covid because the blind man didn’t get vaccinated, and therefore was so afraid of getting Covid that he wasn’t looking at his cat.

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

84, fully-vaxxed...but 84 yrs old

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10103527/Colin-Powell-84-dies-complications-COVID.html

He had multiple myeloma which put him in extremely immunocompromised medical situation.