Pfizer Scientists: Your Antibodies Are Better Than The Vaccination

Kenneth Copeland, Verified Millionaire wrote:

To all the morons out there, that means you have to GET the virus, which for some reason I have to remind you troglodytes is absolutely what you don't want to do. Plus the vaccines are very effective. The implication of this post is beyond insane.

To all the non observant out there, millions upon millions of us have already had the virus,

And you Jr Nazis do not even know how many or test for it.

Kenneth Copeland, Verified Millionaire wrote:

To all the morons out there, that means you have to GET the virus, which for some reason I have to remind you troglodytes is absolutely what you don't want to do. Plus the vaccines are very effective. The implication of this post is beyond insane.

No one is trying to get the virus on purpose just to get natural immunity. But many millions have gotten it, recovered, and are more immune than shot takers. Btw, the virus survival rate for non-obese people under age 70 is 99.9%.

Kenneth Copeland, Verified Millionaire wrote:

To all the morons out there, that means you have to GET the virus, which for some reason I have to remind you troglodytes is absolutely what you don't want to do. Plus the vaccines are very effective. The implication of this post is beyond insane.

The rate of spread over the past 18 months+ indicates that a large portion of the country should have already had it.

Kobbs Hessler wrote:

Kenneth Copeland, Verified Millionaire wrote:

To all the morons out there, that means you have to GET the virus, which for some reason I have to remind you troglodytes is absolutely what you don't want to do. Plus the vaccines are very effective. The implication of this post is beyond insane.

No one is trying to get the virus on purpose just to get natural immunity. But many millions have gotten it, recovered, and are more immune than shot takers. Btw, the virus survival rate for non-obese people under age 70 is 99.9%.

Not sure where that stat comes from but undoubtedly true. Kudos!

Kenneth Copeland, Verified Millionaire wrote:

To all the morons out there, that means you have to GET the virus, which for some reason I have to remind you troglodytes is absolutely what you don't want to do. Plus the vaccines are very effective. The implication of this post is beyond insane.

BS - the virus isn't a death sentence or even hospitalization for those that are very fit & healthy. There are tens of millions of Americans that have had & recovered from the virus without hospitalization. And the vaccines aren't that effective & certainly come with a risk of side-effects.

I'm 60, a bodybuilder & runner, and just had & recovered from the Delta variant a few weeks ago after getting it from my son who attended an indoor concert unmasked. It put me down for about 3 days or so, but I needed absolutely no medical intervention whatsoever (just had my IGG, IA antibody test results come back - positive for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein antibodies. So, this end-of-the-world, apocalyptic Delta variant that, according to the fearmonger MSM, is supposed to be a threat to the end of humanity if you don't get vaccinated didn't do much to me. Lol.

And C'mon now -72 yr old rocker Ted Nugent had a bad bout of Delta but needed no hospitalization! I say again fearmongers out there: he's 72 yrs old! He should have died according to the fearmongering MSM! Lol.

If you refer to my legendary thread "Pandemic of the unvaccinated CONFIRMED" you'll see all these moronic talking points refuted several times.

The denier-fearmongers are spinning their wheels, nowhere to go but eventually admit the vaccines work lol (shocker)

Kenneth Copeland, Verified Millionaire wrote:

To all the morons out there, that means you have to GET the virus, which for some reason I have to remind you troglodytes is absolutely what you don't want to do. Plus the vaccines are very effective. The implication of this post is beyond insane.

CDC puts the amount of Americans who have already had Covid at somewhere around 150 million.

These people do not have to go out and get the virus. They already had it.

And have far better immunity than the vaxxed who have not had Covid.

Harambe wrote:

The denier-fearmongers are spinning their wheels, nowhere to go but eventually admit the vaccines work lol (shocker)

You think that endlessly repeating the mantra "vaccines work" makes sense in light of all the evidence they do not?

One shot, two shots, three shots, more

The CDC estimated that over 1/3 of Americans had covid before the delta spike. My guess is over half of Americans have been infected at this point. The only reason I can see for not honoring natural immunity is money and trying to punish political rivals the deplorables.

My limited sample size in my clinic is looking like the vaccine isn't very good. I think the feds knew this but didn't want to undermine public confidence so they stopped tracking breakthrough cases. Out of 3 patients at my clinic hospitalized since the delta spike 2 were vaccinated both in their 70's one was on a vent and lived. Our unvaccinated patient in his 50's was in the hospital 3 days on oxygen. We've had about 1/3 of our covid cases were breakthroughs. I still recommend the vaccine for my patients over 50 or with comorbidities but I think I delta flipped the narrative for the vaccine. It just isn't that effective.

old_dead_people wrote:

My limited sample size in my clinic is looking like the vaccine isn't very good. I think the feds knew this but didn't want to undermine public confidence so they stopped tracking breakthrough cases. Out of 3 patients at my clinic hospitalized since the delta spike 2 were vaccinated both in their 70's one was on a vent and lived. Our unvaccinated patient in his 50's was in the hospital 3 days on oxygen. We've had about 1/3 of our covid cases were breakthroughs. I still recommend the vaccine for my patients over 50 or with comorbidities but I think I delta flipped the narrative for the vaccine. It just isn't that effective.

Yes it is. Look at agglomerated data from Virginia, for example:

You can see that the delta wave actually increased the hospitalization data between vaxxed and unvaxxed people.

If you are making care decisions based on n=3 hospitalizations when there are countless datasets and publications examining vaccine efficacy during the Delta wave, then I am seriously questioning your judgement...

In other words you're forced to get a vaccine or make a drastic life change. It would be easier to just say "I support vaccine mandates" than these silly mental acrobatics (which don't change the practical or constitutional arguments)

Nugent has an ideal diet to "fight" Covid. He's also not obese, like the 10-year-old girl all over the news, who was "in perfect health," despite weighing more than I do.

Covid is only dangerous if you're fat and out of shape.

The federal mandate has a testing opt-out. If you really don't want the vax and don't want to lose your job, submit to testing.

Employer mandates are totally fine under any framework as your employer can obviously change the conditions of your employment at any time except for a few narrow exceptions.

Harambe wrote:

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Employer mandates are totally fine under any framework as your employer can obviously change the conditions of your employment at any time except for a few narrow exceptions.

It's not an employer mandate when the federal govt orders Employers to do something.

It is a government mandate

What are you talking about? tens of thousands of people dying from the vaccine?? Don't you think that would be national news by now?

One of the vaccines was halted and reviewed because of six cases of non-fatal blood clots out of millions of recipients. I'm pretty sure something would be done about tens of thousands of deaths

You honestly think tens of thousands of people have died from the vaccine and experts are covering it up? Get some help. Not everybody is out to get you.

same ol same ol wrote:

The Clown Show wrote:

Here ya are. Trained well by Trump and the current crop of reTrumplicans. If the facts don't support what you want to say, flat out make sh!t up and keep repeating it. This thread is full of nonsense of varying degrees. But exactly why THIS type of post is allowed is beyond me. "Freedom" to post blatantly false stuff. Nice freedoms LR.

Oh, you mean like the years of "Russia Russia Russia"???

Total BS that was constantly punded into everybody's heads by the same media and gullible lunatics pounding the same doom and gloom narratives today?

YOU fell for the "Russia" BS... so, why would you not be falling for BS again? You're the clown... and there is a bunch of you.

Remember folks, it's the exact same people that want to force everybody to do something, that fell for the years of non-stop propaganda cited above. And, it's those exact same people who voted for this demented pedo-clown...

In part what I'm getting at should be obvious I don't trust the governments numbers but what else do I have to go off of except what I've seen.

Utah's stats list the odds of the unvaccinated at dying about 4 to 5 times higher for the unvaccinated. When you take an already low risk individual then why the huge push to get vaccinated?

I'm not saying the vaccine has no benefit but a lot less than most assume.

We had IHC state a month ago they hadn't had a single vaccinated patient die yet the state was reporting about 100 breakthrough deaths. IHC is like half of Utahs hospital capacity. I can't prove they are lying but I know they are. St Lukes in Idaho just did the same thing about 2 weeks ago saying they didn't have a single vaccinated person out of over 200 in the ICU but there is statistically no way this is possible. I am confident these large hospital systems are lying to push a narrative of get vaccinated.

Either way the delta wave is dying out. There is such widespread immunity hopefully this will become a non issue but I trust you guys won't let that happen.

ienjoyracing wrote:

[quote]Myheadhurts wrote:

[quote]Luv2Run wrote:

You honestly think tens of thousands of people have died from the vaccine and experts are covering it up? Get some help. Not everybody is out to get you.

There is zero doubt that tens of thousands of people have died from these vaccines.

In the USA alone, the number of deaths due to the vaxx reported to the CDC exceeds 10,000.

You can argue that some of those may not have died from the vax but must also acknowledge there are people who have died from the Vax and have not been reported to the CDC.

Worldwide the number dead due to the vax is clearly tens of thousands. No doubt about it.

As far as a cover-up? Well, we certainly not hearing a peep from the MSM on this matter, are we?

ienjoyracing wrote:

What are you talking about? tens of thousands of people dying from the vaccine?? Don't you think that would be national news by now?

One of the vaccines was halted and reviewed because of six cases of non-fatal blood clots out of millions of recipients. I'm pretty sure something would be done about tens of thousands of deaths

You honestly think tens of thousands of people have died from the vaccine and experts are covering it up? Get some help. Not everybody is out to get you.

It's worth mentioning ONE person worldwide (in New Zealand) has died because of myocarditis following the vaccine and yet the antivaxers lost their minds about it a few months ago.