highschoolers don't get to run on the famous lower woodland course either this season
highschoolers don't get to run on the famous lower woodland course either this season
jamin wrote:
What a disgrace. A brigade of RVs and tents has been building up for a year on the west end. Runners have been avoiding the outer loop because of it. The buildup keeps expanding inwards and now it's at the point where the tenants are bordering the inner loop and you get a whiff of the homeless people smell when you pass by.
You're doing loops around Greenlake?
Run the Eastside of Greenlake and hit Ravenna, thru the park and hit the Burke Gilman.
Another guy who misses XC wrote:
It's a sad day when you can't use Lower Woodland and Upper Woodland for XC meets due to the homeless taking over the park and making it unsafe for school activities. It is the center for XC in the Seattle area and has hosted many meets each season.
I liken this to what if NYC shut down Van Cortlandt Park to all XC meets due to a homeless crisis making it unsafe.
Hold it, you mean NYC doesn't have massive encampments in VCP and Central Park??? If so, what are they doing with all their homeless that the West Coast is missing?
Upswing wrote:
Another guy who misses XC wrote:
It's a sad day when you can't use Lower Woodland and Upper Woodland for XC meets due to the homeless taking over the park and making it unsafe for school activities. It is the center for XC in the Seattle area and has hosted many meets each season.
I liken this to what if NYC shut down Van Cortlandt Park to all XC meets due to a homeless crisis making it unsafe.
Hold it, you mean NYC doesn't have massive encampments in VCP and Central Park??? If so, what are they doing with all their homeless that the West Coast is missing?
I heard they put them in a meat grinder and make burgers.
Upswing wrote:
Another guy who misses XC wrote:
It's a sad day when you can't use Lower Woodland and Upper Woodland for XC meets due to the homeless taking over the park and making it unsafe for school activities. It is the center for XC in the Seattle area and has hosted many meets each season.
I liken this to what if NYC shut down Van Cortlandt Park to all XC meets due to a homeless crisis making it unsafe.
Hold it, you mean NYC doesn't have massive encampments in VCP and Central Park??? If so, what are they doing with all their homeless that the West Coast is missing?
I don't know what they are doing in VCP but as far as I know it's still open for high school XC meets. The situation in Seattle is that it isn't safe to host XC meets there.
flyingfrog wrote:
Not from seattle but are you guys saying I could put up an RV in the park and live there rent free?
Just cruise on in and set up your RV and you're good to go!
Another guy who misses XC wrote:
flyingfrog wrote:
Not from seattle but are you guys saying I could put up an RV in the park and live there rent free?
Just cruise on in and set up your RV and you're good to go!
it's a sprawling area. I haven't been over there in while but I am pretty sure that when i was, just a few months ago, that the RVs and vans were parked along the perimeter streets, and within the trail system of the park is where you would find the tents. I would be surprised to learn that RVs were inside the park itself.
shootup wrote:
highschoolers don't get to run on the famous lower woodland course either this season
Ugh. This is why youth USATF meets have been moved to University Place!? Thanks, because I had been wondering.
Homeless push cross country races out
seattle prattle wrote:
it's a sprawling area. I haven't been over there in while but I am pretty sure that when i was, just a few months ago, that the RVs and vans were parked along the perimeter streets, and within the trail system of the park is where you would find the tents. I would be surprised to learn that RVs were inside the park itself.
Yes, they are parked on the eastside of Greenlake on the street (West Green Lake Way N) right up next to the outer loop trail. It's in between Aurora and the parking lot for Green Lake Aqua theatre. You don't want to run on the outer loop between that stretch of the trail. Better to drop down to the paved path.
Local residents starting to get fedup:
https://mynorthwest.com/3159980/protesters-clash-over-woodland-park-green-lake-homeless-encampments/
ZERO elected republicans in King County.
100% run by democrats.
Green Lake used to be a great place and a safe place to go and run. Like the rest of Seattle, it's basically a third world sh*t hole with homeless tents everywhere (of course).
Still missing XC wrote:
Local residents starting to get fedup:
https://mynorthwest.com/3159980/protesters-clash-over-woodland-park-green-lake-homeless-encampments/
Are they for real? They want to move the dispossessed so some middle class high schoolers can go run there?
If they were serious, they would be asking the city council for shelters and rehab programs and they would be asking for drug decriminalization and stronger protections against evictions. 1 in 5 trans people have been or are homeless so I guess if they were serious they'd also want pro-LGBT policies at work and in education.
Then, maybe masses of people wouldn't be living in parks. But they won't because...
Is camping there save? Might bring a tent with me to have a cheap holiday there.
nooneisthegoat wrote:
Is camping there save? Might bring a tent with me to have a cheap holiday there.
Not so sure about that.
But hang your LRC t-shirt outside your tent and next time I run by, I'll say hello.
Hope you enjoy your stay! (I mean, given all that about third world latrine and all)
Tatar... wrote:
Still missing XC wrote:
Local residents starting to get fedup:
https://mynorthwest.com/3159980/protesters-clash-over-woodland-park-green-lake-homeless-encampments/Are they for real? They want to move the dispossessed so some middle class high schoolers can go run there?
If they were serious, they would be asking the city council for shelters and rehab programs and they would be asking for drug decriminalization and stronger protections against evictions. 1 in 5 trans people have been or are homeless so I guess if they were serious they'd also want pro-LGBT policies at work and in education.
Then, maybe masses of people wouldn't be living in parks. But they won't because...
If it's alright for people to be camped out there, it should be perfectly OK for middle schoolers and high schoolers to run XC. They should coexist and permits for racing should be allowed. Cheering should be encouraged. If the people camping are deemed SO unsafe or unhygienic that it's not safe to race there, then they shouldn't be allowed to reside there at all.
What about the rest of us? Not allowing permits is only about legal risk, but the rest of us have to traverse this on our own and either take the risk of unpredictable violent behavior and exposure to human waste or avoid the area altogether? By not allowing XC they are saying it's not a safe area. Parents and rec leagues should be all over that area. You can't cede territory like this. People with tents will find a new place to go cause the sound of high school kids and a gaggle of parents should be annoying enough to drive them out.
Tatar... wrote:
Still missing XC wrote:
Local residents starting to get fedup:
https://mynorthwest.com/3159980/protesters-clash-over-woodland-park-green-lake-homeless-encampments/Are they for real? They want to move the dispossessed so some middle class high schoolers can go run there?
If they were serious, they would be asking the city council for shelters and rehab programs and they would be asking for drug decriminalization and stronger protections against evictions. 1 in 5 trans people have been or are homeless so I guess if they were serious they'd also want pro-LGBT policies at work and in education.
Then, maybe masses of people wouldn't be living in parks. But they won't because...
You must be a right-winger pretending to be a liberal in order to make them look stupid. This is just too obvious.
whiskas wrote:
Tatar... wrote:
Are they for real? They want to move the dispossessed so some middle class high schoolers can go run there?
If they were serious, they would be asking the city council for shelters and rehab programs and they would be asking for drug decriminalization and stronger protections against evictions. 1 in 5 trans people have been or are homeless so I guess if they were serious they'd also want pro-LGBT policies at work and in education.
Then, maybe masses of people wouldn't be living in parks. But they won't because...
If it's alright for people to be camped out there, it should be perfectly OK for middle schoolers and high schoolers to run XC. They should coexist and permits for racing should be allowed. Cheering should be encouraged. If the people camping are deemed SO unsafe or unhygienic that it's not safe to race there, then they shouldn't be allowed to reside there at all.
What about the rest of us? Not allowing permits is only about legal risk, but the rest of us have to traverse this on our own and either take the risk of unpredictable violent behavior and exposure to human waste or avoid the area altogether? By not allowing XC they are saying it's not a safe area. Parents and rec leagues should be all over that area. You can't cede territory like this. People with tents will find a new place to go cause the sound of high school kids and a gaggle of parents should be annoying enough to drive them out.
It's not "alright" for people to live in parks - it's obviously unhygienic. That's why they should be asking for shelters, rehab programs, drug decriminalization and protections against evictions.
But these people don't care about any of that, they just want them moved to the next park.
Tatar... wrote:It's not "alright" for people to live in parks - it's obviously unhygienic. That's why they should be asking for shelters, rehab programs, drug decriminalization and protections against evictions.
But these people don't care about any of that, they just want them moved to the next park.
As long as it's a park that's not in their neighborhood.
Tatar... wrote:
whiskas wrote:
If it's alright for people to be camped out there, it should be perfectly OK for middle schoolers and high schoolers to run XC. They should coexist and permits for racing should be allowed. Cheering should be encouraged. If the people camping are deemed SO unsafe or unhygienic that it's not safe to race there, then they shouldn't be allowed to reside there at all.
What about the rest of us? Not allowing permits is only about legal risk, but the rest of us have to traverse this on our own and either take the risk of unpredictable violent behavior and exposure to human waste or avoid the area altogether? By not allowing XC they are saying it's not a safe area. Parents and rec leagues should be all over that area. You can't cede territory like this. People with tents will find a new place to go cause the sound of high school kids and a gaggle of parents should be annoying enough to drive them out.
It's not "alright" for people to live in parks - it's obviously unhygienic. That's why they should be asking for shelters, rehab programs, drug decriminalization and protections against evictions.
But these people don't care about any of that, they just want them moved to the next park.
It is a complicated problem. I am hearing that it is a major campaign issue how each mayoral candidate intends to deal with homelessness in the city.
Also understand that a portion of the homeless do not want to move into shelters or assisted living, so there's that, too.