Sifan Hassan is the best of you all haters and she is CLEAN

rekrunner wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Even too dumb to know what an apologist is. It's all you ever do. Like now. Salazar got a 4 year ban for "trying really hard not to dope his athletes". Not hard enough, it seems. And "the only connection with Hassan is coach-athlete relationship". (Like Denis Mitchell and Richardson?) What other relationship is at issue? They were going steady? You are a joke.

What is sad, is that even now, you don’t seem to really know what Salazar was actually banned for.

The ratio of your arrogance over your knowledge is mathematically undefined.

What’s more sad, is that you think you can “win” by making it about me. Whatever you may think about me, this will not change the written record of the AAA Panel and the direct quotes from Tygart, with respect to Salazar and the NOP athletes.

He was banned for breaking the rules on doping. A 4-year ban is a serious infraction. Except to an eternal apologist like yourself.

Armstronglivs wrote:

He was banned for breaking the rules on doping. A 4-year ban is a serious infraction. Except to an eternal apologist like yourself.

Because you lack the specific understanding of the details, you are unable to respond to the words of the AAA Panel and Tygart which contradict your child-like notions and beliefs.

rekrunner wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

He was banned for breaking the rules on doping. A 4-year ban is a serious infraction. Except to an eternal apologist like yourself.

Because you lack the specific understanding of the details, you are unable to respond to the words of the AAA Panel and Tygart which contradict your child-like notions and beliefs.

So it is correct then, that he was banned for violating the anti-doping rules, and that a 4 year ban is a serious infraction. Same penalty as Houlihan got. And Kiprop. Nothing you or anyone says changes or excuses that. It is certainly a "child-like notion" on your part that it does. You reason like an infant.

she has a five oclock shadow on her face.im sure she showers daily,so in that sense shes clean,but she sure aint drug free.

Armstronglivs wrote:

rekrunner wrote:

Because you lack the specific understanding of the details, you are unable to respond to the words of the AAA Panel and Tygart which contradict your child-like notions and beliefs.

So it is correct then, that he was banned for violating the anti-doping rules, and that a 4 year ban is a serious infraction. Same penalty as Houlihan got. And Kiprop. Nothing you or anyone says changes or excuses that. It is certainly a "child-like notion" on your part that it does. You reason like an infant.

I wish you would make up your mind.

Which one do you claim is correct: “breaking the rules on doping” or “violating the anti-doping rules”?

WADA doesn’t define “serious”, so I have no comment, but I’m wondering what would constitute a non-serious infraction?

You still demonstrate no specific details, just the generalizations that rules were broken.

Do you agree with the AAA Panel about Salazar’s intentions and unintentions?

Do you agree with Tygart and his finding about NOP athletes?

Sifan Hassan shout put her ultimate efforts to get this record of the 1500m.

She can do it before it's too late.

I am only interested in the fact that Salazar has incurred a 4 year penalty for breaking the rules relating to doping. The rest only matters to those like you trying to find excuses for him. You will always do that.

I thought Sleazy got banned for creeping the girls out?

Is that slur on his Character? Malicious gossip? Or is there a grain of truth to it, or what?

Maybe you're the wrong person to ask though, you make a lot of stuff up for attention. Too many posters here do. It's like a false accusation competition.

Glowing Endorsements wrote:

I thought Sleazy got banned for creeping the girls out?

Is that slur on his Character? Malicious gossip? Or is there a grain of truth to it, or what?

Maybe you're the wrong person to ask though, you make a lot of stuff up for attention. Too many posters here do. It's like a false accusation competition.

If you think that's what he got a 4 year ban for maybe you aren't equipped to ask the question.

Passant wrote:

Go home now devastated.

Her name will be written in Gold in tracks and Field history.

Dude, watch the semi race where she fell last lap. She made up 30 meters lost in 150m running past a group closing the last 400m like they were standing still; it was effortless for her. She even looked over at one point and slowed down like she knew it looked ridiculous. Maybe she is a god, maybe she is clean, but that moment right there made her performances really suspicious. You can't say she is not doping when she is destroying a field in that way, one that is likely and traditionally full of dopers.

Steve The Addict^^^^^^^------- wrote:

She is not clean. That's why she did the triple. See that fall and recovery to win her 1500 heat? She doesn't even care how obvious it is.

She found something that they guaranteed her long would not show up in a test. On that note, they suggested, and she agreed, to have her way with some WRs. I'd have probably done the same thing. She's as clean as a Taco Bell men's room.

Lead Foil Hat XXIV wrote:

Passant wrote:

Go home now devastated.

Her name will be written in Gold in tracks and Field history.

Dude, watch the semi race where she fell last lap. She made up 30 meters lost in 150m running past a group closing the last 400m like they were standing still; it was effortless for her. She even looked over at one point and slowed down like she knew it looked ridiculous. Maybe she is a god, maybe she is clean, but that moment right there made her performances really suspicious. You can't say she is not doping when she is destroying a field in that way, one that is likely and traditionally full of dopers.

Finally, we agree on something.

Armstronglivs wrote:

I am only interested in the fact that Salazar has incurred a 4 year penalty for breaking the rules relating to doping. The rest only matters to those like you trying to find excuses for him. You will always do that.

That’s not quite true, is it. We are not re-litigating Salazar — that is past history.

You also seem to be interested in:

1) arguing the violations were not “accidental” (sic),

2) suggesting the violations are “serious”, and

3) implicating Hassan (after all — this is a Hassan thread, not a Salazar thread).

All of these topics go beyond your stated interest in the 4 year penalty for breaking the rules.

You also seem interested in accusing me of finding excuses, simply for reminding you that it is the panel of judges who defended Salazar, and the prosecutor who defended the NOP athletes.

rekrunner wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

I am only interested in the fact that Salazar has incurred a 4 year penalty for breaking the rules relating to doping. The rest only matters to those like you trying to find excuses for him. You will always do that.

That’s not quite true, is it. We are not re-litigating Salazar — that is past history.

You also seem to be interested in:

1) arguing the violations were not “accidental” (sic),

2) suggesting the violations are “serious”, and

3) implicating Hassan (after all — this is a Hassan thread, not a Salazar thread).

All of these topics go beyond your stated interest in the 4 year penalty for breaking the rules.

You also seem interested in accusing me of finding excuses, simply for reminding you that it is the panel of judges who defended Salazar, and the prosecutor who defended the NOP athletes.

I am not interested in anything that interests you.

The judges didn't defend Salazar; they imposed a penalty on him. It is you who seek to defend him - as you do with all the dopers.

Salazar is the equivalent of a mob boss in doping; he heads the syndicate but none of his troops are committing crimes because we didn't see him giving the orders.

Passant wrote:

Sifan Hassan shout put her ultimate efforts to get this record of the 1500m.

She can do it before it's too late.

Salam Aleykum, bismillah,etc...

Yes, agreed that Hassancan run fast over 1500.

I saw potential for a time around 3:48-3:49 at her best and possibly faster. It is hard to mix 1500 m and 10,000 m in the same season but others have done it including Mo Farah.

Armstronglivs wrote:

I am not interested in anything that interests you.

The judges didn't defend Salazar; they imposed a penalty on him. It is you who seek to defend him - as you do with all the dopers.

What you say you are only interested in doesn’t match what you post.

I only seek to remind you of historical fact, which doesn’t seem to stand all that well with your bad faith.

This thread is about Hassan, and by reminding you of details about the verdict, I was defending NOP athletes, none of whom have received any penalty for violating any doping or anti-doping rules.

You seek to demonize the messenger for reminding you what the panel judges wrote and the prosecutor said.

You want to make it about me, but that can never undo what both judge and prosecutor wrote and said.

I find this sad.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Salazar is the equivalent of a mob boss in doping; he heads the syndicate but none of his troops are committing crimes because we didn't see him giving the orders.

Says the guy who says he is “only interested in the fact that Salazar has incurred a 4 year penalty”.

Seems like you are more interested in accusing his “troops” of “committing crimes”.

What an imagination from someone who has yet to demonstrate he is aware of which specific acts broke which rules.

rekrunner wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Salazar is the equivalent of a mob boss in doping; he heads the syndicate but none of his troops are committing crimes because we didn't see him giving the orders.

Says the guy who says he is “only interested in the fact that Salazar has incurred a 4 year penalty”.

Seems like you are more interested in accusing his “troops” of “committing crimes”.

What an imagination from someone who has yet to demonstrate he is aware of which specific acts broke which rules.