Exactly, you mentioned there might have been a a catastrophic explosion but we will continue to conduct a search and rescue mission in the hopes that they are still alive.
You and Newname are up for the dopiest post of the day award pretty early in the day.
Exactly, you mentioned there might have been a a catastrophic explosion but we will continue to conduct a search and rescue mission in the hopes that they are still alive.
Except we -- and the families -- were not told there "might have been" (i.e., was) a catastrophic explosion until days later
Your head's gonna explode when you finally figure out the military doesn't tell the public quite a lot of things.
I don't get how you could be careless to actually do this - surely these people valued their lives but I guess this weird "excitement" of doing this (which I personally don't think is that exciting anyway) overrode those values?
Stockton Rush sadly comes off as a delusional narcissist. His interview referring to himself as an innovator based on "General McArthur's" advice on breaking rules and that being justification and motivation for him to do the same, is simply the new cancer of the "innovation delusionist" (see Holmes: Elizabeth).
I keep hearing about how was "committed to safety" - yeah his interpretation of safety which appears like it was counter to modern material sciences and basic engineering etc etc. If my interpretation of safety is that I can jump off a high rise building holding a sheet and will float gently to the ground like in a Looney Tunes cartoon, then I am going to have problems too
The saddest story by far is the kid. Some (many) billionaires I am sure have weird psychology with respect to their mortality and a certain god complex centered around "always making no matter what" (which I guess is how you do the things to become so wealthy), but to drag a kid into it who by all accounts was terrified and only felt obliged to in order to not let his father down in some stupid cultural sentiment - man, that's just f-ing depressing.
Honestly, glad it's over.
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I don't get how you could be careless to actually do this - surely these people valued their lives but I guess this weird "excitement" of doing this (which I personally don't think is that exciting anyway) overrode those values?
Stockton Rush sadly comes off as a delusional narcissist. His interview referring to himself as an innovator based on "General McArthur's" advice on breaking rules and that being justification and motivation for him to do the same, is simply the new cancer of the "innovation delusionist" (see Holmes: Elizabeth).
I keep hearing about how was "committed to safety" - yeah his interpretation of safety which appears like it was counter to modern material sciences and basic engineering etc etc. If my interpretation of safety is that I can jump off a high rise building holding a sheet and will float gently to the ground like in a Looney Tunes cartoon, then I am going to have problems too
The saddest story by far is the kid. Some (many) billionaires I am sure have weird psychology with respect to their mortality and a certain god complex centered around "always making no matter what" (which I guess is how you do the things to become so wealthy), but to drag a kid into it who by all accounts was terrified and only felt obliged to in order to not let his father down in some stupid cultural sentiment - man, that's just f-ing depressing.
Honestly, glad it's over.
The Titan made 13 successful trips to the Titanic prior to the trip that failed.
No one has ever jumped of a high rise with a sheet and lived let alone done it 13 times in a row.
I don't get how you could be careless to actually do this - surely these people valued their lives but I guess this weird "excitement" of doing this (which I personally don't think is that exciting anyway) overrode those values?
Stockton Rush sadly comes off as a delusional narcissist. His interview referring to himself as an innovator based on "General McArthur's" advice on breaking rules and that being justification and motivation for him to do the same, is simply the new cancer of the "innovation delusionist" (see Holmes: Elizabeth).
I keep hearing about how was "committed to safety" - yeah his interpretation of safety which appears like it was counter to modern material sciences and basic engineering etc etc. If my interpretation of safety is that I can jump off a high rise building holding a sheet and will float gently to the ground like in a Looney Tunes cartoon, then I am going to have problems too
The saddest story by far is the kid. Some (many) billionaires I am sure have weird psychology with respect to their mortality and a certain god complex centered around "always making no matter what" (which I guess is how you do the things to become so wealthy), but to drag a kid into it who by all accounts was terrified and only felt obliged to in order to not let his father down in some stupid cultural sentiment - man, that's just f-ing depressing.
Honestly, glad it's over.
The Titan made 13 successful trips to the Titanic prior to the trip that failed.
No one has ever jumped of a high rise with a sheet and lived let alone done it 13 times in a row.
Incorrect. The Titan made the trip to the Titanic three (3) times, not 13.
I don't get how you could be careless to actually do this - surely these people valued their lives but I guess this weird "excitement" of doing this (which I personally don't think is that exciting anyway) overrode those values?
Stockton Rush sadly comes off as a delusional narcissist. His interview referring to himself as an innovator based on "General McArthur's" advice on breaking rules and that being justification and motivation for him to do the same, is simply the new cancer of the "innovation delusionist" (see Holmes: Elizabeth).
I keep hearing about how was "committed to safety" - yeah his interpretation of safety which appears like it was counter to modern material sciences and basic engineering etc etc. If my interpretation of safety is that I can jump off a high rise building holding a sheet and will float gently to the ground like in a Looney Tunes cartoon, then I am going to have problems too
The saddest story by far is the kid. Some (many) billionaires I am sure have weird psychology with respect to their mortality and a certain god complex centered around "always making no matter what" (which I guess is how you do the things to become so wealthy), but to drag a kid into it who by all accounts was terrified and only felt obliged to in order to not let his father down in some stupid cultural sentiment - man, that's just f-ing depressing.
Honestly, glad it's over.
The Titan made 13 successful trips to the Titanic prior to the trip that failed.
No one has ever jumped of a high rise with a sheet and lived let alone done it 13 times in a row.
I don't get how you could be careless to actually do this - surely these people valued their lives but I guess this weird "excitement" of doing this (which I personally don't think is that exciting anyway) overrode those values?
Stockton Rush sadly comes off as a delusional narcissist. His interview referring to himself as an innovator based on "General McArthur's" advice on breaking rules and that being justification and motivation for him to do the same, is simply the new cancer of the "innovation delusionist" (see Holmes: Elizabeth).
I keep hearing about how was "committed to safety" - yeah his interpretation of safety which appears like it was counter to modern material sciences and basic engineering etc etc. If my interpretation of safety is that I can jump off a high rise building holding a sheet and will float gently to the ground like in a Looney Tunes cartoon, then I am going to have problems too
The saddest story by far is the kid. Some (many) billionaires I am sure have weird psychology with respect to their mortality and a certain god complex centered around "always making no matter what" (which I guess is how you do the things to become so wealthy), but to drag a kid into it who by all accounts was terrified and only felt obliged to in order to not let his father down in some stupid cultural sentiment - man, that's just f-ing depressing.
Honestly, glad it's over.
The Titan made 13 successful trips to the Titanic prior to the trip that failed.
No one has ever jumped of a high rise with a sheet and lived let alone done it 13 times in a row.
And this is the exact logic that got these people killed. Firstly your number of successful trips is wrong - mostly because (guess what) the Titan suffered near catastrophic failure before on multiple attempts and had to abort. This is not the logic to "keep trucking" - it's the logic to stop what you are doing and go back to the drawing board. Which is precisely what one employee said and then was asked to leave the premises within 10 minutes.
Well that employee is alive and well. The guy who asked him to leave is now assimilated with 350 quintillion tons of ocean water.
How about I put it to you this way - based off your logic if I had personally sponsored you to take a trip in the Titan to go see the Titanic, would you have taken it?
I don't get how you could be careless to actually do this - surely these people valued their lives but I guess this weird "excitement" of doing this (which I personally don't think is that exciting anyway) overrode those values?
Stockton Rush sadly comes off as a delusional narcissist. His interview referring to himself as an innovator based on "General McArthur's" advice on breaking rules and that being justification and motivation for him to do the same, is simply the new cancer of the "innovation delusionist" (see Holmes: Elizabeth).
I keep hearing about how was "committed to safety" - yeah his interpretation of safety which appears like it was counter to modern material sciences and basic engineering etc etc. If my interpretation of safety is that I can jump off a high rise building holding a sheet and will float gently to the ground like in a Looney Tunes cartoon, then I am going to have problems too
The saddest story by far is the kid. Some (many) billionaires I am sure have weird psychology with respect to their mortality and a certain god complex centered around "always making no matter what" (which I guess is how you do the things to become so wealthy), but to drag a kid into it who by all accounts was terrified and only felt obliged to in order to not let his father down in some stupid cultural sentiment - man, that's just f-ing depressing.
Honestly, glad it's over.
At no time should a submariner, civilian or military ever quote Army or Marine ground combat officers. Ground combat officers are trained think in terms of acceptable levels of death on battlefield.
Note: If Truman had not fired McArthur, McArthur's plan of action in Korean Conflict may have resulted in nuclear combat between Soviet Union.
Stockton Rush was the wrong man to be in charge of a tourist company.
There will always be a market for this stuff. Climbing Everest is fairly risky and expensive, but rich folks still line up to do it and pass numerous dead bodies on the way up mountain. Submersible "certification" will probably become a requirement moving forward.
Your head's gonna explode when you finally figure out the military doesn't tell the public quite a lot of things.
All for our own good, right?
Stockholm Syndrome everywhere
Yes actually. Adults can barely handle their emotions when their favorite football team losing a game. They don’t need to panic about everything they have no control over.
So where does OceanGate (sounds like a name custom-made for conspiracy incident) go from here? Do they shutter the business and liquidate their equipment? Do they name a new CEO, should they? Their website still has 2024 Titanic expeditions available. They have more submersibles to continue business as usual, right? Do the victims' families find a way to sue OceanGate out of existence?
There will always be a market for this stuff. Climbing Everest is fairly risky and expensive, but rich folks still line up to do it and pass numerous dead bodies on the way up mountain. Submersible "certification" will probably become a requirement moving forward.
Your head's gonna explode when you finally figure out the military doesn't tell the public quite a lot of things.
All for our own good, right?
Stockholm Syndrome everywhere
I'm not saying it's necessarily for our good, or necessarily bad for all of us. But you must be 12 years old to think "Why won't the military tell us everything?!" It could have potentially been a matter of national security. For all they knew, that sound they heard could have been someone testing a bomb. They had very good reason to believe it was the Titan, but had zero way of being certain until they saw it. What's hard to understand about that?
You should read Kafka if you want to get angry about bureaucracy in an educated manor.
I'm not saying it's necessarily for our good, or necessarily bad for all of us. But you must be 12 years old to think "Why won't the military tell us everything?!" It could have potentially been a matter of national security. For all they knew, that sound they heard could have been someone testing a bomb. They had very good reason to believe it was the Titan, but had zero way of being certain until they saw it. What's hard to understand about that?
You should read Kafka if you want to get angry about bureaucracy in an educated manor.
I'd say people like you who enjoy these deaths so much deserve "the slower and more torturous death".
Rush Stockton is as good as a murderer -- negligent in about 1000 different ways. And for what? $$$ and Ego. Figures you'd pop up to "defend" him. The teenage kid is the one who deserves sympathy...
With any luck, that implosion got Stockton -- even in his obliterated, fish food state-- a shortcut to Hell.