I mean who do people think got you into running in the first place? save the private specialized coaching for college
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trailrunner86 wrote:
this whole private coaching phenomena is pretty depressing. I really didn't like my high school coach, actually I hated him. But he put the energy to build our program, he was the one who took the time to make our team good. He was the one who was there for my teammates. It would be outright disrespectful for me to use a private coach.
What if he didn’t do all those things and wasn’t there for you and your teammates?
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FlyOnTheWall wrote:
Ventura DRAMA wrote:
Ventura has drama. The old coach left because Sadie Engelhardt has a private coach. This is the Dad of her Boyfriend. He doesn’t really know what he’s doing, but Sadie is fast because she’s so talented and everyone can’t stand the private coach. The new Ventura HS coach is now getting annoyed at Sadie’s coach because he’s very obsessed and not liked among all the parents or athletes. Sadie’s private coach (Matt Hammel) tried to get the HS job at Ventura, but the school didn’t hire him because of all the complaints they got from other parents and kids.
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Is that the real reason why the old coach left the program? Over one runner? When he could've stayed on for the boy's forthcoming, potential epic year? I too, heard about Sadie taking on a private coach. Being Matt Hammell. Which I am surprised, if true, as I know that he's said in the past that he would never intentionally interfere with a school's program. It's hard to believe, though, that many parents and kids don't like him. He was the head coach for the Ventura Tigres track program for many years. He ran a fantastic program that was frankly, the best organization in the entire conference. He had no negative issues with parents and most of the kids respected and loved that guy and his team of coaches.
I think this is the same type of negativity being projected onto this individual, similar to what others, on different threads, are trying to project onto the first year Newbury Park coach. I agree that whether he or anyone else is distracting the runners away from the high school coach's program is wrong and shouldn't be tolerated by coach Spiker. But defaming the guy is also wrong. If true, Coach Spiker needs to put his foot down. I know that it is easier said than done, especially when they are your top runners. But he is the coach and Sadie is a Ventura High School runner. Other sports wouldn't put up with it. I know that Brosnan ran a tight ship, in terms of adhering to the team's plan. Having said all of this, I also heard that Fasthorse is getting private coaching. Does anyone know if this is true, or just rumor?I know that there are several CA elite girls that are going the private coaching route. I don't blame them, there are very few HS coaches that can get an athlete to that level. Our local coaching staff prefers to have all of the runners be the same. No front runners. Great for the team scoring but doesn't help individual runners at all. Many HS coaches do not care about the individual reaching their potential, they care about the team winning. An elite runner with a private coach can excel as an individual and help the team-WIN WIN
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trailrunner86 wrote:
I mean who do people think got you into running in the first place? save the private specialized coaching for college
You don't need a private coach in college. That coach recruited you and wants you to excel and become something amazing as an individual. I saw a Charlie Hicks say before the NCAA finals last year and he said something like "our culture is to go out and win it individually because that helps the team". HS coaches do not see it this way. With every other HS sport is acceptable and even encouraged to have a private coach. Running needs to catch up.
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Ventura DRAMA wrote:
Vaingt wrote:
Yes and they’ll have a magnificent 7. Or at least 6 studs.
FastHorse, Grossman, Costa, Hammel, DeGeorge, Sloan, and their 7th man Harris just a little far back.
But they won’t be a 5-man team anymore this year if DeGeorge is back.
Ventura has drama. The old coach left because Sadie Engelhardt has a private coach. This is the Dad of her Boyfriend. He doesn’t really know what he’s doing, but Sadie is fast because she’s so talented and everyone can’t stand the private coach. The new Ventura HS coach is now getting annoyed at Sadie’s coach because he’s very obsessed and not liked among all the parents or athletes. Sadie’s private coach (Matt Hammel) tried to get the HS job at Ventura, but the school didn’t hire him because of all the complaints they got from other parents and kids.
DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA
Well if Ventura had so much drama, how did their girls team do so well at Clovis?
Second place at a big meet like Clovis is very good
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Well if he is coaching Sadie then he is killing it at the coaching gig.
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Well if he is coaching Sadie then he is killing it at the coaching gig.
I think he’s “coaching” her. Sadie’s parents are nice to him. If you know what I mean.
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Major of Ventura wrote:
It is common wrote:
Well if he is coaching Sadie then he is killing it at the coaching gig.
I think he’s “coaching” her. Sadie’s parents are nice to him. If you know what I mean.
I’m assuming you’re talking about how Matt Hammell is on the spectrum. The man is an odd duck.
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Major of Ventura wrote:
It is common wrote:
Well if he is coaching Sadie then he is killing it at the coaching gig.
I think he’s “coaching” her. Sadie’s parents are nice to him. If you know what I mean.
Anyone else on the Ventura team have a different coach?
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Here is an updated list of all the California teams I could find with a 5 man returning team with a speed rating average of at least 160.
Great Oak 171.6
Martin Luther King 171.2
Glendora 168.6
Matilda Torres 167.0
Buchanan 166.6
Arnold O. Beckman 166.2
JSerra 166.0
Mira Costa 164.2
Woodbridge 162.2
Jesuit 161.6
Tesoro 161.6
Vacaville 161.4
Oaks Christian 160.0--------------
Woodbridge was the biggest surprise, and they don't even have a junior.
Aiden Zavala 10 169.80 171
Aidan Antonio 9 172.00 172
Inban Kathiravan 10 163.87 164
Thomas Yohn 9 152.80 153
Iniyan Kathiravan 10 150.57 15132 -
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Here is an updated list of all the California teams I could find with a 5 man returning team with a speed rating average of at least 160.
Great Oak 171.6
Martin Luther King 171.2
Glendora 168.6
Matilda Torres 167.0
Buchanan 166.6
Arnold O. Beckman 166.2
JSerra 166.0
Mira Costa 164.2
Woodbridge 162.2
Jesuit 161.6
Tesoro 161.6
Vacaville 161.4
Oaks Christian 160.0--------------
Woodbridge was the biggest surprise, and they don't even have a junior.
Aiden Zavala 10 169.80 171
Aidan Antonio 9 172.00 172
Inban Kathiravan 10 163.87 164
Thomas Yohn 9 152.80 153
Iniyan Kathiravan 10 150.57 151You might see a discrepancy. Aiden Zavala's score of 171 came from Mt Sac, in a race Tully didn't speed rate, but which I computed using the scale from the other Saturday races. 15:00 was 185.0. Every 3 seconds over that is minus 1 point, so 15:41.0 computes to 171.3, rounded down to 171. The 169.80 is just a left over from his highest printed Tully score. I do for many of the races, and yes, I spend way too much time on this. I think I am pretty much done for the year with rankings. We are close to the end so that all that remains is to run the big races.
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Northerncal wrote:
Campolindo 3200 track resultsShea Volkmer continues to shine, running 10:29 for the 3200. Another girl who merits watching is Anna Salter of Crystal Springs Uplands. The sophomore went 10:50, very good. Compares favorably to Olivia Williams' 10:46.
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