Bad Wigins wrote:
If an imploding sub is so instantaneous, then how come in all the submarine movies, when they are too deep and the hull starts popping, they have all these ways to fix it?
This response explains your existence on this board.
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internet genius wrote:
You realize the implosion blew both ends off the vessel. Both ends were found separately in the debris field. Their bodies would've been instantly shredded in a nanosecond by the onrush of water that took about 20 milliseconds.
Think of it this way. A 2.5" firehose has water pressure between 100-300 psi. The titan was in water pressure over 5000psi. So imagine getting blasted by a 9 foot diameter firehose at 20x the force of a normal 2.5" firehose.
While the ends were blown off, they were blown in and not out.
The whole sequence of events undoubtedly occurred within factions of seconds of each other. There was a loss of pressure within the craft and that led to the implosion and, as you say, a "crush of water."
A good bit of the Titan was made of carbon fiber. Carbon fiber does not fatigue like other metals can but if there were impurities introduced in the manufacturing process or if there was some sort of a hard blow that was sustained at some point, there could have been a weakening of it. That is possible but not likely. If it were possible to have made this craft out of aluminum, the aluminum would have been crushed. Aluminum will fatigue unlike carbon fiber which has an extremely high strength to weight ratio. As strong as CF is, though, once the vessel depressurized, it could not hold up to the extremely high PSI pressure at the depth that it was at. The CF cracked causing the influx of water and, as I mentioned, it all occurred within a fraction of a second.
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the truth.. wrote:
His sub was destroyed, and he died, due to his woke anti-merit beliefs.
So now being woke can sink subs? Putin and Xi don't need nukes on their submarines then. They just need to broadcast MSNBC, and that will be enough to take down the entire US Navy.
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the truth.. wrote:
As I posted before, this whole event makes it seem like traditional indicators of merit will remain. His sub was destroyed, and he died, due to his woke anti-merit beliefs.
Being "woke" has nothing to do with it.
You're implying, as you have before, that a white engineer is superior to a black engineer, solely because of race. If both are equally qualified would you still believe that one is superior to the other? That is a rhetorical question and I already know your answer.
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He didn’t say that. But it is true that different groups have different average IQs.
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Jamb innnnnnn wrote:
13579 wrote:
Let's hear your reasoning to support your statement.
My skepticism is because it was conveniently "found" only a few hours after the 96 hr window elapsed.
All expert opinions were that we wouldn't find it at all.
Then we magically find it (in a vast area) in a short span of time.
It doesn't add up. I think the govt/media want the story out of the news cycle for reasons unknown.
Well, since the earth is flat all the government needs to do is wait at the edge, where the water falls off, and hold a gigantic sieve. If there is debris I'm sure it will turn up there eventually, right? No, we can't trust the government to do that. They will just find another sub, paint it so it matches, and tell us they found it. We need a trustworthy team lead by Robert Kennedy at the edge of the world to do this.
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Some sources are saying it imploded days ago and the US navy detected that on their systems.
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We were lied to by Navy personnel for 4 days. They knew it imploded soon after it went into the water but they continued telling us that it was a "search and rescue" mission and not a recovery mission.
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Bad Wigins wrote:
If an imploding sub is so instantaneous, then how come in all the submarine movies, when they are too deep and the hull starts popping, they have all these ways to fix it?
In Das Boot they are turning valves and closing hatches and putting 2x4s up to brace things, the whole 9 yards.
agreed. Something isn't adding up here. One of the billionaires was a MAJOR investor in SETI (search for extraterrestrial intelligence). With the full disclosure coming soon, I smell a conspiracy.........
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Equity wrote:
He didn’t say that. But it is true that different groups have different average IQs.
Why are you bringing that into the discussion? It is disparate from my point.
Oh, I know, you're showing that your racism is not veiled. Got it...
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13579 wrote:
Newname wrote:
Turns out it was known the vessel had imploded and all were dead by Monday.
Yet they kept up the charade that the people were perhaps still alive up until Thursday.
Do they (the establishment and the media they own) have to lien about every single major story?
The Navy heard what they thought to be an implosion. The sound was heard via sensors that they use to detect potential enemy submarines. They let rescuers know that the sound was heard. Even though the sound was thought to be an implosion, it was still deemed to be important to search for the "vessel."
Would you not want a search to continue if it the song heard were merely "thought" to be an implosion?
Not everything need to be shaped to fit your narrative and, believe it or not, not everyone is out to get you.
Why did the MSM pretend the implosion had not taken place when the Navy had heard it implode? Or at least mention the fact the Navy had heard this?
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Sally Vix wrote:
We were lied to by Navy personnel for 4 days. They knew it imploded soon after it went into the water but they continued telling us that it was a "search and rescue" mission and not a recovery mission.
Yes we were.
Yet there are people on Letsrun in denial about this
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DIII Recruit wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
If an imploding sub is so instantaneous, then how come in all the submarine movies, when they are too deep and the hull starts popping, they have all these ways to fix it?
In Das Boot they are turning valves and closing hatches and putting 2x4s up to brace things, the whole 9 yards.
agreed. Something isn't adding up here. One of the billionaires was a MAJOR investor in SETI (search for extraterrestrial intelligence). With the full disclosure coming soon, I smell a conspiracy.........
Guys, it's a MOVIE...smh
Do you both believe at 6000 PSI, which is greater than 41,000 kilopascal, that a 2x4 is going to help things? 🤭 That sort of pressure would be roughly equivalent to an Empire State Building made entirely of lead on something as fragile as an egg.
Again, a crack or breach did not cause the implosion. Depressurization caused the implosion which, in turn, caused a breach. The whole sequence probably happened faster than you can blink your eye.
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Newname wrote:
13579 wrote:
The Navy heard what they thought to be an implosion. The sound was heard via sensors that they use to detect potential enemy submarines. They let rescuers know that the sound was heard. Even though the sound was thought to be an implosion, it was still deemed to be important to search for the "vessel."
Would you not want a search to continue if it the song heard were merely "thought" to be an implosion?
Not everything need to be shaped to fit your narrative and, believe it or not, not everyone is out to get you.
Why did the MSM pretend the implosion had not taken place when the Navy had heard it implode? Or at least mention the fact the Navy had heard this?
I thought the navy withheld that information because they weren’t certain and didn’t want to alter the search.
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Jamb innnnnnn wrote:
I think the govt/media want the story out of the news cycle for reasons unknown.
If the media want the story out of the news cycle they're doing an awful job of it. Pretty much every source has the story prominently featured. The three sources I read every morning are The Economist, WSJ, and NYT. All of them have stories about this.
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Sally Vix wrote:
We were lied to by Navy personnel for 4 days. They knew it imploded soon after it went into the water but they continued telling us that it was a "search and rescue" mission and not a recovery mission.
Look at all the down votes.
Some posters here hate the truth
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13579 wrote:
Jamb innnnnnn wrote:
I think the govt/media want the story out of the news cycle for reasons unknown.
If the media want the story out of the news cycle they're doing an awful job of it. Pretty much every source has the story prominently featured. The three sources I read every morning are The Economist, WSJ, and NYT. All of them have stories about this.
Other than leaving out the fact that the Navy knew the fact the thing had imploded days ago
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Newname wrote:
13579 wrote:
If the media want the story out of the news cycle they're doing an awful job of it. Pretty much every source has the story prominently featured. The three sources I read every morning are The Economist, WSJ, and NYT. All of them have stories about this.
Other than leaving out the fact that the Navy knew the fact the thing had imploded days ago
Really?
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Bad Wigins wrote:
If an imploding sub is so instantaneous, then how come in all the submarine movies, when they are too deep and the hull starts popping, they have all these ways to fix it?
In Das Boot they are turning valves and closing hatches and putting 2x4s up to brace things, the whole 9 yards.
Mmmmh, why is that?
Maybe because U boats can't dive that deep.
Test depth of 230 m (750 ft)
Crush depth: 250–295 m (820–968 ft)The Titanic lies in about 13,000ft that is slightly more than 1000ft
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the truth.. wrote:
As I posted before, this whole event makes it seem like traditional indicators of merit will remain. His sub was destroyed, and he died, due to his woke anti-merit beliefs.
There is 1 black person that worked at OceanGate. They are so woke!
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