does anyone non named adult have a factcheck on this claim adult keeps making?
I could do it but I'm heading out the door.
How can you offer informative comment if you have not been following or researching events in Ukraine over the last 8 years?
Separatist and Ukraine forces have been swapping rocket salvos pretty much continuously.
Civilian deaths in Separatist regions during the Minsk "cease fire" are easily well into 3 figures. Adding those before and since, 4 figures. Ukrainians killing Ukrainians.
Here's about two minutes of Google research:
Russia accuses Kyiv of deadly missile attack on Donetsk
They ask for evidence. Evidence is provided. And then they just down vote it and pretend it doesn't exist because NOTHING can interfere with the hive mind.
Good point Ernest, all of those millions of Rogan followers must be right.
They were corrupt a couple of years ago so they all deserve to die now.
No one stated Ukrainians deserve to die.
And there is no connection between commenting on shifting Ukraine narratives and endorsing death to Ukrainians.
Two logical errors.
(1) False Attribution
(2) Causal Fallacy
Then why bring it up? The logical take here is that every post you make is an attempt to dehumanize the ongoing atrocities or to defend your reason for doing so.
Wow. Redditt has a propaganda video From Russia bragging about this super, duper supply ship that will keep Russia going in its war efforts in Ukraine. I guess they ran the video and Ukraine took note.
This is the ship that was sunk to the bottom of the sea!
This clusterfook is like watching the Trump administration.
You did not bother to post details or links, so I will.
Incorrect reports have been issued by the UDF stating a Russian military vessel (Orsk) was sunk by their Naval forces.
Ukraine has no Navy to speak off. The vessel was not at sea, but tied up at dock and caught fire.
I have not seen reliable reports of what caused the fire, but a reasonable assumption is arson.
Conflicting claims have been made that the ship was struck by a missile, which does not seem likely.
The ship is not new and was one of three Transport Ships tied up.
The Orsk is likely a complete loss, while the other two ships got clear with minor damage.
As all liberals are you are hypocritically very conservative when it comes to taxes on your own money.
By your idiotic logic you're a conservative....
I hate to keep pointing this out to you but you had said you were a social liberal.
You're just not clever enough to understand that being liberal in one area or conservative in another doesn't define the whole...
The people who call themselves "liberal" today are leftists.
Actual liberals have to differentiate themselves by calling themselves "classical liberals" and if they still vote Democrat they hold their nose to do it.
I hate to keep pointing this out to you but you had said you were a social liberal.
You're just not clever enough to understand that being liberal in one area or conservative in another doesn't define the whole...
The people who call themselves "liberal" today are leftists.
Actual liberals have to differentiate themselves by calling themselves "classical liberals" and if they still vote Democrat they hold their nose to do it.
This is the most neckbeard fedora post I've ever read on letsrun.
You're just not clever enough to understand that being liberal in one area or conservative in another doesn't define the whole...
The people who call themselves "liberal" today are leftists.
Actual liberals have to differentiate themselves by calling themselves "classical liberals" and if they still vote Democrat they hold their nose to do it.
This is the most neckbeard fedora post I've ever read on letsrun.
Ironic that the neckbeard fedora community is composed entirely of leftist beta males...
I hate to keep pointing this out to you but you had said you were a social liberal.
You're just not clever enough to understand that being liberal in one area or conservative in another doesn't define the whole...
The people who call themselves "liberal" today are leftists.
Actual liberals have to differentiate themselves by calling themselves "classical liberals" and if they still vote Democrat they hold their nose to do it.
And there is no connection between commenting on shifting Ukraine narratives and endorsing death to Ukrainians.
Two logical errors.
(1) False Attribution
(2) Causal Fallacy
Then why bring it up? The logical take here is that every post you make is an attempt to dehumanize the ongoing atrocities or to defend your reason for doing so.
Having just made two egregious logical errors, it's ironic to then say "the logical take here is..."
You seem to associate appeals for, or presentation of, fact which does not reinforce your preconceived view as excusing, enabling, or advocating atrocities.
Then why bring it up? The logical take here is that every post you make is an attempt to dehumanize the ongoing atrocities or to defend your reason for doing so.
Having just made two egregious logical errors, it's ironic to then say "the logical take here is..."
You seem to associate appeals for, or presentation of, fact which does not reinforce your preconceived view as excusing, enabling, or advocating atrocities.
Ladies and gentlemen, Russian TV star #ComradeCawthorn.The Lincoln Project is a leading pro-democracy organization in the United States — dedicated to the pr...
Having just made two egregious logical errors, it's ironic to then say "the logical take here is..."
You seem to associate appeals for, or presentation of, fact which does not reinforce your preconceived view as excusing, enabling, or advocating atrocities.
And you're not doing well. Comparing "go to" moves, yours seems to be stating anyone who has a different opinion is some shade of baby killer.
No post I made supports violence, but many called for less of it.
None of my posts resort to name calling.
Most of my posts refute incorrect claims by including specific and verifiable facts/claims backed up with links to reputable sources.
Though I wonder why I bother as nobody seems interested in facts.
If you do not agree with alternate views, argue your side.
Labels of "whataboutism" are not logical argument, but weak dismissal. It proves or disproves nothing.
Whataboutism is an attempt to justify one wrong by citing another wrong. We all know two wrongs don't make a right. Right?
All of your posts are about historic atrocities carried out elsewhere to as you say it point out the hypocrisy which serves absolutely no purpose other than to deflect the actions of the Russian army right now.
You and your idiot buddy here have only shown concern for the past and concerned currently only for Russian soldiers and their mistreatment. No acknowledgement at all of Russian soldiers committing murder of women and children.
As someone else pointed out quite well you are a morally bankrupt individual.
The fact that you only care about civilians being killed when you're told to makes YOU morally bankrupt.
People like YOU are the only reason any civilians are dying anywhere. Weak naive men cause ALL wars.
All of your posts are about historic atrocities carried out elsewhere to as you say it point out the hypocrisy which serves absolutely no purpose other than to deflect the actions of the Russian army right now.
You and your idiot buddy here have only shown concern for the past and concerned currently only for Russian soldiers and their mistreatment. No acknowledgement at all of Russian soldiers committing murder of women and children.
As someone else pointed out quite well you are a morally bankrupt individual.
The fact that you only care about civilians being killed when you're told to makes YOU morally bankrupt.
People like YOU are the only reason any civilians are dying anywhere. Weak naive men cause ALL wars.
We agree on something!
You're right. I don't care at all about soldiers that invade people's neighborhoods, schools, churches, hospitals, and shooting at families attempting to escape the war zone in cars.
