Always depressing to see a post this ignorant get upvotes.
Without the ultra wealthy people like you would still be living in the woods and dying before you turned 30.
keep licking boots. generally most innovation occurred in the public realm or by innovators that did not get rich from their inventions. Opportunists often come along and figure out a way to monetize the genius of others - those are the ultra wealthy. and they do it at the expense of public safety, public health, and the public good.
Lately the ultraweathly in the tech space have such an economy of scale that they can simply employ the true innovators and then get even richer from other people's smarts.
If you think the billionaire class is responsible for good medicine you are kidding yourself - HMOs work actively to limit your medical treatement. If you think billionaires want you to have a prosperous life you are insane - they want you to barely get by, so you are beholden to them and work for them in inhumane conditions because you have no other choice due to their behind the scenes manipulation of public policy makes sure that you can't get paid properly, your public services are destroyed, and you don't have access to clean air and water.
But yay billionaires - Twitter and Facebook and one day shipping will make my life great!
Looks like it's time for that old hymn:
1 O worship the Rich, ‘cause they’re always right, O gratefully bow to their power and their might our shields and defenders, with billions untold They make the rules, ‘cause they’ve got the gold 2 O tell of their might, the wealth that they chase, whose yachts roam the seas and starships in space. Their minions of wrath the deep thunderclouds form, and dark is their path on the wings of the storm. 3 Their bountiful wealth, what tongue can recite? It sucks in the air, it shines as if light; it streams from the hills, it pours down to the plain, and washes the poor and the sick down the drain. 4 Frail children of dust, and feeble as frail, it’s you they despise, and watch as you fail. Their riches so countless, they horde ‘til the end, The poor without homes, or jobs, or a friend. 5 O measureless Wealth, unchangeable class, while we are expected to worship their ass They’ve ransomed creation, to hell with the earth They demand adoration, from the day of their birth.
I ask readers on here to today, think about the seven Marines and one Sailor who died 37 months ago off the coast of California when Amtrak sank. CNN didn't pay much attention to said Marines & Sailors 37 months ago.
If an imploding sub is so instantaneous, then how come in all the submarine movies, when they are too deep and the hull starts popping, they have all these ways to fix it?
In Das Boot they are turning valves and closing hatches and putting 2x4s up to brace things, the whole 9 yards.
U-boats typically stayed less than 200 feet below the surface despite a “crush depth” of almost four times that deep. Relatively speaking the pressure on a u-boat hull would have been a small fraction of what a submersible at 12,000 feet is experiencing and yes, hull damage may have led to a slow leak rather than instant implosion.
The Das Boot sub sank off its gauge to deeper than 200m in the Mediterranean and landed on a sand spit. The fiction was spun out of many factual narratives about the u-boats.
If a more modern hull can withstand greater pressure, and it has a much weaker point like a window that would break first, why must the whole thing implode? Couldn't the water just flow into the broken window? Pretty soon the pressure is equalized that way anyhow. Pressure's happy, water's happy, unimploded hull is happy.
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The Das Boot sub sank off its gauge to deeper than 200m in the Mediterranean and landed on a sand spit. The fiction was spun out of many factual narratives about the u-boats.
If a more modern hull can withstand greater pressure, and it has a much weaker point like a window that would break first, why must the whole thing implode? Couldn't the water just flow into the broken window? Pretty soon the pressure is equalized that way anyhow. Pressure's happy, water's happy, unimploded hull is happy.
I would think that the water pressure at that depth would be so great that it’d force water through the opening so intensely that there would be an explosion (or implosion?) anyways.
I didn't say implosion though. You even bolded what I said before misquoting! I said destruction which could be slow or fast. Again, by saying that I didn't say it didn't implode. I just said I take the Navy with a grain of salt!
If it did implode, vs, say compress enough to let water in and drown the people, I would imagine the implosion was fast.
It's not possible for a submersible to be subject to the immense pressure of 10,000 feet below water and compress "slow-ish" and develop a water leak and drown people. Once there is any kind of structural failure in the hull, BAM! it's all over.
You are saying a pinhole with incredibly high pressure and therefore volume could not have done it. I do understand that it couldn't be slow now, even a pinhole at that pressure would fill with water almost instantaneously, but did the capsule have to crush for it to end water tightness? What happened to the bodies?
I used to be baffled at how a thread on this site could go on for pages debating if a plane on a treadmill could lift off... Due to your post, I now understand the type of people that had a hard time understanding a plane requires upward force under its wings to lift off.
As for the nature of the implosion, I read a technical article in a periodical called "The Conversation" which postulates what went wrong on the Titan at that depth. It notes that titanium is a common material for submersibles that go to those depths, but composite carbon fiber, which the Titan was made of to a large extent, is far less common in that application. I believe that the Titan was a composite of both titanium and the carbon fiber, which may have been causing differentials in how they adapted to the changes in pressure. They surmise that the carbon fiber, which does not have the same rigorous properties to expand and contract as titanium (being more rigid), may have delaminated and thereby lost its strength. Once that happens, the article says that under the pressure found at that sea depth, the vessel would have collapsed inward in the very short span of 20 milliseconds, which is faster than the human mind can experience (i.e.: instantaneously).
It would seem that the carbon fiber shell may have been the culprit.
You are saying a pinhole with incredibly high pressure and therefore volume could not have done it. I do understand that it couldn't be slow now, even a pinhole at that pressure would fill with water almost instantaneously, but did the capsule have to crush for it to end water tightness? What happened to the bodies?
A pinhole in material otherwise able to withstand the pressure will not fill 'allmost instantaneously"...why would it
Modern Ultra High Pressure Liquid Chromatographs (HPLC) can operate up to 17,000psi and push liquid through tubing made of fused silica at flow rates in nano ml/min.
Under such conditions it could conceivably fill (depending on hole size) squirting slowly until at some point when it has filled, the water pressure will start equalising to the outside pressure
Here is another interesting discussion about the Titan's unusual design and its use of carbon fiber, a port window that may not have been rated to withstand pressures experienced at those depths, and lack of testing of the vessel.
You realize the implosion blew both ends off the vessel. Both ends were found separately in the debris field. Their bodies would've been instantly shredded in a nanosecond by the onrush of water that took about 20 milliseconds.
Think of it this way. A 2.5" firehose has water pressure between 100-300 psi. The titan was in water pressure over 5000psi. So imagine getting blasted by a 9 foot diameter firehose at 20x the force of a normal 2.5" firehose.
You realize the implosion blew both ends off the vessel. Both ends were found separately in the debris field. Their bodies would've been instantly shredded in a nanosecond by the onrush of water that took about 20 milliseconds.
Think of it this way. A 2.5" firehose has water pressure between 100-300 psi. The titan was in water pressure over 5000psi. So imagine getting blasted by a 9 foot diameter firehose at 20x the force of a normal 2.5" firehose.
Has there been any pictures of any of the components?
Turns out it was known the vessel had imploded and all were dead by Monday.
Yet they kept up the charade that the people were perhaps still alive up until Thursday.
Do they (the establishment and the media they own) have to lien about every single major story?
The Navy heard what they thought to be an implosion. The sound was heard via sensors that they use to detect potential enemy submarines. They let rescuers know that the sound was heard. Even though the sound was thought to be an implosion, it was still deemed to be important to search for the "vessel."
Would you not want a search to continue if it the song heard were merely "thought" to be an implosion?
Not everything need to be shaped to fit your narrative and, believe it or not, not everyone is out to get you.
As I posted before, this whole event makes it seem like traditional indicators of merit will remain. His sub was destroyed, and he died, due to his woke anti-merit beliefs.
