Biden getting 10 million votes more than Obama is also very hard to believe.
Just imagine how many votes Obama would have got if he'd been against Trump.....
(Pro-Obama votes plus anti-Trump votes, it would have been a landslide)
Biden getting 10 million votes more than Obama is also very hard to believe.
Just imagine how many votes Obama would have got if he'd been against Trump.....
(Pro-Obama votes plus anti-Trump votes, it would have been a landslide)
Morning Trumpies.
Accepting the results yet?
Also, did anyone catch any coverage of the court case in AZ yesterday? Wow, it was brutal.
All these people with 'sworn affidavits' claiming they saw naughty stuff, but none of them could actually give any evidence when asked. It was funny.
Even the Trumpy lawyers admitted they had no evidence of fraud.
Just stop the nonsense and start transition. Shut the loser down.
This article highlights the stupidity of Trump supporters thinking there was election fraud.
I wonder if some of the crazies on this board are “whistleblowers”. Wouldn’t surprise me if Igy, Sally, Allen, AgingRunner etc. were involved.
ernest 1978 wrote:
alternate opinion wrote:
Any response to this?
I am not a conservative but nothing will convince me the election was legit. I think there was a lot of fraud but we don't have checks in place to catch it. And it's nearly impossible to catch fraud after the fact.
What I am most concerned with is what happened before the election. Clear election interference by the media, tech companies, democrats in congress (phony impeachment and refusing to pass a coronavirus stimulus), hollywood propaganda, and many more. Hundreds of examples of every establishment being out to hurt Trump and help Biden.
That's not a democracy. That's the "elites" picking their favorite and guaranteeing a win.
Just an example - My niece is in college and she said she was voting for Biden because she saw on CNN that Trump is white supremacist. That's demonstrably not true. People are being brainwashed by the "elites." It's a threat to our democracy.
What you are calling interference by the media and tech companies, is simply a response to actual interference by both foreign governments and domestic groups. In today's world of social media, misinformation has gained the same weight as factual information. We all clearly see it. A lie or fake news is easily retweeted and reposted to thousands and even hundreds of thousands of people. People do it intentionally to muddy the water. This is all proven fact. Sources clearly matter, so if a post is misinformation, then I have no problem with it being labeled as such. I have a much bigger problem with our Government and our President being the one putting out misinformation.
So many people just want to hear what they want to hear. It's funny now that Trump supporters are tuning out Fox news now. I see many of my Trumper friends on facebook saying they are done with Fox. Why? Because their news desk is actually reporting news. Because Fox is only willing to lie so much and what the President wants them to do and say is a line that even Fox News won't cross.
I know there will be people like you who simply refuse to believe the facts of this election. Just like some people will never believe the moon landings, because they themselves weren't actually there in the LM with Neil and Buzz.
The truth is the truth whether you like it or not. Just face the reality.
MelRnr wrote:
ernest 1978 wrote:
I am not a conservative but nothing will convince me the election was legit. I think there was a lot of fraud but we don't have checks in place to catch it. And it's nearly impossible to catch fraud after the fact.
What I am most concerned with is what happened before the election. Clear election interference by the media, tech companies, democrats in congress (phony impeachment and refusing to pass a coronavirus stimulus), hollywood propaganda, and many more. Hundreds of examples of every establishment being out to hurt Trump and help Biden.
That's not a democracy. That's the "elites" picking their favorite and guaranteeing a win.
Just an example - My niece is in college and she said she was voting for Biden because she saw on CNN that Trump is white supremacist. That's demonstrably not true. People are being brainwashed by the "elites." It's a threat to our democracy.
What you are calling interference by the media and tech companies, is simply a response to actual interference by both foreign governments and domestic groups. In today's world of social media, misinformation has gained the same weight as factual information. We all clearly see it. A lie or fake news is easily retweeted and reposted to thousands and even hundreds of thousands of people. People do it intentionally to muddy the water. This is all proven fact. Sources clearly matter, so if a post is misinformation, then I have no problem with it being labeled as such. I have a much bigger problem with our Government and our President being the one putting out misinformation.
So many people just want to hear what they want to hear. It's funny now that Trump supporters are tuning out Fox news now. I see many of my Trumper friends on facebook saying they are done with Fox. Why? Because their news desk is actually reporting news. Because Fox is only willing to lie so much and what the President wants them to do and say is a line that even Fox News won't cross.
I know there will be people like you who simply refuse to believe the facts of this election. Just like some people will never believe the moon landings, because they themselves weren't actually there in the LM with Neil and Buzz.
The truth is the truth whether you like it or not. Just face the reality.
Good post.
The poster before you basically said, "even though there is no proof I know it is there". I guess that is improvement over the numbers here posting that there is proof when in reality none exists.
I get tired of the wilful stupidity.
Trevor Noah had an interesting view on all of this,
Trump is doing that so he can fund his campaign which is deeply in the red.
As always with Trump, just follow the money.
We're all guilty of believing stories that go along with our predefined views (ahead of stories that go against our views), but some of these Trumpsters are really pushing the envelope.
beerOK wrote:
We're all guilty of believing stories that go along with our predefined views (ahead of stories that go against our views), but some of these Trumpsters are really pushing the envelope.
It's amazingly difficult it accept that one has been conned. Some will never accept it.
No one wants to admit to themselves that they were wrong but the trumpsters extent of reality denial is on a different level.
highhoppingworm wrote:
I wonder if some of the crazies on this board are “whistleblowers”. Wouldn’t surprise me if Igy, Sally, Allen, AgingRunner etc. were involved.
Nah. No whistleblower here. I will admit that as the days pass and more information is coming in, it does look like, at this point, that major voter fraud hasn't occurred. Some investigations are still occurring. Once those are complete and nothing is found, I will admit that also. Happy Friday the 13th!
Jamaica blue wrote:
Biden getting 10 million votes more than Obama is also very hard to believe.
Just imagine how many votes Obama would have got if he'd been against Trump.....
(Pro-Obama votes plus anti-Trump votes, it would have been a landslide)
Odd that the Dem Congressional candidates did not get record vote numbers.
Only Biden
beerOK wrote:
We're all guilty of believing stories that go along with our predefined views (ahead of stories that go against our views), but some of these Trumpsters are really pushing the envelope.
I know.
Trump was up 800,000 votes in PA on election day with 2/3rds of the vote in and ended up losing.
Why would anyone question that?
After all, the establishment assures us that this was the most secure elections ever and there is no evidence of any fraud.
And they wouldn't lie to us, would they?
Unkle - are you really this dumb?
I stopped paying attention, has anything new come out in the last couple of days? I followed the early stories, and I agree they warranted investigation despite Trump being who he is, but it Seems like Trump literally has nothing to support his claims in court at this point if no new evidence has come to light.
The Unkle wrote:
beerOK wrote:
We're all guilty of believing stories that go along with our predefined views (ahead of stories that go against our views), but some of these Trumpsters are really pushing the envelope.
I know.
Trump was up 800,000 votes in PA on election day with 2/3rds of the vote in and ended up losing.
Why would anyone question that?
After all, the establishment assures us that this was the most secure elections ever and there is no evidence of any fraud.
And they wouldn't lie to us, would they?
Others who have argued your side have looked at the evidence and finally decided nothing is there. That leaves you and your delusions pretty far out in left field.
Any chance you might be coming back to reality in the near future?
Just wondering how deep in you are.
reality.. wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
[quote]beerOK wrote:
We're all guilty of believing stories that go along with our predefined views (ahead of stories that go against our views), but some of these Trumpsters are really pushing the envelope.
I know.
Trump was up 800,000 votes in PA on election day with 2/3rds of the vote in and ended up losing.
Why would anyone question that?
After all, the establishment assures us that this was the most secure elections ever and there is no evidence of any fraud.
And they wouldn't lie to us, would they?
Others who have argued your side have looked at the evidence and finally decided nothing is there. Really? Who was that? What did they find?
You have no idea, do you? Admit it.
People acting like it's crazy to suspect fraud are the biggest idiots of all. Thinking these politicians, on either end, are above cheating is completely naive. And despite not caring if Trump won or not, as someone who considers himself non-partial, the way the results played out, and a lot of the claims about fraud that have come out, seem very suspicious. You need people totally outside the system to investigate. The only people I've seen who have said there is no fraud have a direct involvement in voting and the voting process.
It's simply that enough people were against Trump, even though they may be more conservative or moderate types.
I myself have been a registered Republican for 20 years. In 2016 I couldn't support either candidate, so I did a write in for Kasich. This year I voted for Biden.
Look at all the Republicans that actively campaigned against Trump this year. The Lincoln Project, Bush alums, George Will, Bill Kristol, even former Trump adminstration officials.and others. All of them pointing out that Trump is a dishonest autocrat and a threat to our republic.
A significant number of center-right minded people split their ballot.
My above response was to Uncie regarding congressional results, but I forgot to quote his post.
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