She is doping. Now we are getting into Armstrong territory.
For those who are certain Jess Hull is doping, let me ask you 5 questions.
1. She ran 3.55.9 at Pre on 25 May 2024 and then ran 3.50.8 on 7 July, 6 weeks later. Do you think she started doping after running Pre and this explains the 5-second improvement in those 6 weeks?
2. Alternatively, do you think she started doping before the current season, which explains the 7-second drop in her PB?
3. 3rd option, do you think she has been doping for several years?
4. If 2 or 3, how do you explain the 5-second drop in 6 weeks if she had already been doping for months or years?
5. If you think 1, are you saying she has just started doping in the middle of her career, in the middle of the season, straight after running a 2-second PB?
3. But she has been "only" micro-dosing (NOP style), and then decided to go all out last winter, hence the huge improvement over 2023. For the jump from 3:55 to 3:50, see what Turighghght wrote (getting the dosages right, having the drugs kick in, peaking for the summer).
If you really think she is clean, how do you explain the 5-second drop in 6 weeks and the 7-second drop in 12 months?
This is a thread about doping and yet the mods have attacked it to rigorously censor the discussion. The contradiction in that is hard to fathom.
For you, every athletics related thread is about doping.
Rinse and repeat. This guy is a broken record. We heard you the first time - you think everyone dopes - good for you. Why do we have to be subjected on EVERY thread to this repetitive nonsense. You can't prove anything either way, so why not express your opinion ONCE and leave it at that. Threads would be shorter, and more to the point.
For those who are certain Jess Hull is doping, let me ask you 5 questions.
1. She ran 3.55.9 at Pre on 25 May 2024 and then ran 3.50.8 on 7 July, 6 weeks later. Do you think she started doping after running Pre and this explains the 5-second improvement in those 6 weeks?
2. Alternatively, do you think she started doping before the current season, which explains the 7-second drop in her PB?
3. 3rd option, do you think she has been doping for several years?
4. If 2 or 3, how do you explain the 5-second drop in 6 weeks if she had already been doping for months or years?
5. If you think 1, are you saying she has just started doping in the middle of her career, in the middle of the season, straight after running a 2-second PB?
3. But she has been "only" micro-dosing (NOP style), and then decided to go all out last winter, hence the huge improvement over 2023. For the jump from 3:55 to 3:50, see what Turighghght wrote (getting the dosages right, having the drugs kick in, peaking for the summer).
If you really think she is clean, how do you explain the 5-second drop in 6 weeks and the 7-second drop in 12 months?
And what do you think she could run dirty?
You had to really scratch around to find an answer that fits in with the theory that she is doping. She started doping more and now (after many years) got the dosages right.
If you think she has been doping for years, it's hard to explain the 5-second drop in one race. She suddenly got the dosages right? She doped more? Why would the drugs only just kick in then (during that 6-week window) if she's been doping for years?
They (and everything else you said) is less believable than the other normal factors that go into a big PB run.
I think she's clean because she's innocent till proven guilty.
As I said, most factual judgements are based on probability, not absolute certainty. She meets that test. That is why there are pages discussing it on this thread and there are countless threads positing doping throughout the sport. Yours will be the naive position that the only dopers are those who are caught - when most aren't.
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Hull ran 3:50. Look who else is in that rarified air. The idea that anyone thinks it is clean is insane. What makes this remarkable is that we are talking about a well-established pro with an extensive history.
She is basically the Jake Wightman of women's 1500,.both were solid finals runners, but then finally it all comes together in their late 20s. And both coached by their dads. The obvious big difference is she has stayed injury free so far.
She is basically the Jake Wightman of women's 1500,.both were solid finals runners, but then finally it all comes together in their late 20s. And both coached by their dads. The obvious big difference is she has stayed injury free so far.
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