Is Sebastian Coe the only white distance runner in the top 10?

Mo over Coe? I hope you're joking. He's nothing more than a cut-rate Viren.

Africa population is one billion

Coevett wrote:

[quote]mooonshot wrote:

I just know as a scientific fact as a coach and professional athlete in this sport going on three decades, that Africans are superior runners than caucasians. I know it hurts, but come to my world (elite level running and racing) and you will open your eyes to what talent truly is. For every Jakob, there are dozens of Africans that can flat out run.

With the level of doping going on in Kenya, and the percentage of their top athletes going into distance running, if they had any significant superior natural talent to caucasians, they would absolutely dominate the top 100 800m/1500m/5000m lists.

What's going on is that Kenya (and East Africa) does produce a body type in great numbers suitable for sub- elite running (who knows what part culture/genes play in that) but don't to seem to excel as athletes (their near total lack of success in any other sport demonstrates this).

Give hundreds of sub-elite runners access to peds, and quite a few of them will turn into elites.

There is likely not one legitimate 17 or 18 year old African who is running as fast as Jakob or Max Burgin, perhaps never has been, at least not clean.[/quote

You really don't believe east Africans have a genetic advantage?

Wow, they look like people who run a lot. Have you seen Mo Farah identical twin? Looks like a fat American. They look like that due to running, not genetics.

Elliott

Ryun

Ovett

Viren

Coe

Nurmi

Zatopek

Geb

Bekele

Keino

Didn't want to put Coe on the list because he was probably a doper, and is for certain an enabler of brit dopers now.

You think all that running stretched out their legs by about 6 inches?

Coevett wrote:

And who cares what you think? You're accusing me of being a racist for objecting to a thread which is indirectly boasting that white distance runners suck.

Who cares what I think? Versus what you think? I don't remember seeing you at any of the European Athletics conventions. Oh! You were not invited because no one cares what a racist internet troll from LRC thinks.

And I don't need to accuse you of being a racist for whatever reason. You provide plenty of evidence.

Or maybe you think that all the posters who think you are a racist are wrong, and you are the only person who is right.

No, you are a racist and I don't understand why you deny it.

Nick Willis clean record holder, no clean Kenyan under 3:35 (then 3:33), Insulting Zakayo because of the shape of his head, insulting all Kenyans saying that they are age cheats and the proof is in their receding hairlines - what an idiot you are, failing to see that's a genetic trait and that even young children and women have it.

Do you want more examples? You have provided plenty during the two or three years you've been haunting these boards.

I wish you would stop posting here.

+1, except for the last part. I hope this idiot continues to make a fool of himself here.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

100 MPW will do that to you wrote:

Wow, they look like people who run a lot. Have you seen Mo Farah identical twin? Looks like a fat American. They look like that due to running, not genetics.

You think all that running stretched out their legs by about 6 inches?

100 MPW will do that to you wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

You think all that running stretched out their legs by about 6 inches?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-v5HS6sbfo-U/T7yGkDDwpuI/AAAAAAAAHSM/HW46i_Lqx_s/s1600/Nobbyphotos+126.jpg

What a fantastic picture!

Your trolling effort has succeeded in breaking my silence.

casual obsever wrote:

Well - I do have a history of speaking out against rekrunner's EPO-doesn't-work-at-the-top nonsense.

That is not MY nonsense. It is a cartoon version of my sense.

casual obsever wrote:

I agree with the authors of the Tübingen/Harvard study that likely more than 44% dope.

But do the authors agree with you?

I remind everyone once again, these same authors wrote, in a ready for publication paper they gave to the British Parliament Inquiry: "At the (2011 WCA) ... we found that the prevalence of reported past-year doping was at least 29%. In subsequent sensitivity analyses, assessing the robustness of these estimates (i.e. at least 29% for WCA) under numerous hypothetical scenarios of intentional or unintentional noncompliance by respondents, the estimates remained little changed, or even appeared to low."

It's hard to believe their findings have changed since then, four years after the study, and a plain reading of the detailed discussion in the Appendix published with the study doesn't support such a drastic change of results.

The authors were never as committed to "likely more than 44%" as you are.

As usual, stupid and wrong statement from Coevett. When corrected - he just stays away.

I agree incidence of Russian doping is undeniably high. What do you mean by "huge impact of Russian doping"? If you meant Russian women, mainly in middle distance, known to take steroid cocktails, then I would also agree that Russian doping made a huge impact.

What's Up With This? wrote:

And if there's anyone that seems to be minimizing the huge impact of Russian doping it's been rekrunner with his endless trolling that the Russian's marathoners don't run faster than the Japanese, only a handful run faster than his clean pre-1990 times, Shobukhova's high Hct had nothing to do with her record setting top OA marathon time, and so on and so forth.

People call you racist because of your double standard. Reducing it to "genetic myth" is something that falls short of acknowledging all the realities of why East Africans dominate, as does reducing it to "doping". If the examples of the fastest "non-African" marathoners (Ryan Hall and Moen) are any indication, if we set up European camps at altitude, and let a generation of kids be exposed and adapt to altitude and grow up to be 90-110 pound adults, we would see big improvements by these Europeans in distance events.

Coevett wrote:

So I'm the evil racist for trying to counter the myth that East (and North) Africans are somehow on a different genetic plane to the rest of humanity.

Coevett wrote:

This thread could equally be titled - 'Is Sebastican Coe the only non-EPO fueled distance runner in the top 10?'

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Which is really odd given he was EPO fueled while Ovett was not

lil sebby wrote:

The top 10 runners of all time, listed in no particular order within each section:

1-3

Kenenisa Bekele

Haile Gebrselassie

Hicham El Guerrouj

4-6

Noureddine Morceli

Eliud Kipchoge

Daniel Komen

7-10

Paul Tergat

Said Aouita

Sebastian Coe

Moses Kiptanui

Aside from Seb Coe, I can't think of a single non-African that belongs on this list. Who am I missing? Nurmi, Zatopek, and Viren all come to mind but I don't see who I could replace.

El G never lost to Bekele, not sure he ever lost to Geb at a senior level.

How many times has ex(pired) runner posted in this thread or is El K back?

Subway Surfers wrote:

El G never lost to Bekele, not sure he ever lost to Geb at a senior level.

El G isn't black enough for lil sebby and the rest.

Which is really odd wrote:

Coevett wrote:

This thread could equally be titled - 'Is Sebastican Coe the only non-EPO fueled distance runner in the top 10?'

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Which is really odd given he was EPO fueled while Ovett was not

EPO wasn't around until at least the mid-eighties, unless you belive Mindweak's theory that Bannister invented it.

If Seb Coe was EPO fuelled and Ovett and the rest not, then it would only further confirm that this disgusting thread is really - 'the top ten greatest EPO runners of all time'.