kljV wrote:
Mo is an f!ng winner.
That race was amazing in context of him losing London.
Guts, grit, determination and conviction.
Mo is a winner.
Bekele is even more of a winner.
kljV wrote:
Mo is an f!ng winner.
That race was amazing in context of him losing London.
Guts, grit, determination and conviction.
Mo is a winner.
Bekele is even more of a winner.
Bekele had the monster kick
Mo had the sharpest kick
He is one of the greats, i admire his achievements especially when it comes to championship medals. However interms of all time bests, his 5000m PR 12:53.11 is 64th of all time fastest times. IMO He is the best of his time but not of all time .
wejo wrote:
What a finish.
I was sitting there pretty bummed no one was running fast until that final lap and then I was amazed with it.
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Please don't support a doper
Thanks
the grand inquisitor wrote:
Dope Train wrote:Out of competition drugs tests
Bekele 0
Farah > 3
So your argument isn't that Mo is better, but just that Bekele was dirtier than Mo? Frankly I think they are both shady but I know which one was the GOAT distance runner.
Bekele is known to reject any supplements. He doesn't even take vitamins while Farah has an access to the greatest Grey Zone Pharmacy for athletes in the world. I think it's quite obvious who is dirtier.
grox wrote:
As for the marathon, his PEDs seem not to work as well for this distance. Tonight might very well be Farah's last victory.
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Considering how he avoids meets with the biggest competion where fast times are chased, what leads you to the conclusion that he will be showing up in fast marathons?
I would expect him to run these Great North runs in UK which will be set for him to win and then he will probably show up in European and World championships which are skipped by the best (such as Kipchoge).
It will be exactly the same as in the track. Don't expect any fast marathon times, but he may add some WC medal.
grox wrote:
As for the marathon, his PEDs seem not to work as well for this distance. Tonight might very well be Farah's last victory.
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Considering how he avoids meets with the biggest competion where fast times are chased, what leads you to the conclusion that he will be showing up in fast marathons?
I would expect him to run these Great North runs in UK which will be set for him to win and then he will probably show up in European and World championships which are skipped by the best (such as Kipchoge).
It will be exactly the same as in the track. Don't expect any fast marathon times, but he may add some WC medal
Look up the European champs 5k from last year. The top four finished 0.01 apart
Woodstock wrote:
Look up the European champs 5k from last year. The top four finished 0.01 apart
13:40 🤣
Substantially slower than NCAAs that year.
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Spot-on rojo.
Perfect ending to his track career (ignoring the doping questions).
Undefeated for years in the 5k and 10k at WC and OG -- loses final 5k race. Bounces back and defeats the runner who knocked him off in a classic 5k -- one of the best races ever.
Mo, the doper, is beating dopers. No one can now compete at that level clean. Pretty much the case for forty years. A clean 5k/10k world record wouldn't be much faster than Ron Clarke was running in the sixties. The circus is in town and has been so for years.
Facts is facts wrote:
I could not believe that final 100m.
PEDs or not, nothing can give a guy guts like that.
He is the GOAT of effort. Indisputable.
Geb would have outkicked that group easily. You're too young to judge GOAT
No They did not, and Mo Farah is not the greatest Ever. That title goes to Kenenissa Bekele
I think even on this race, Mo won because of His better tactics. He would have lost this if he was not on the first line. The other 3 guys lost to Mo because they were running on the outside line and trying to pass someone who was running 52.61/Lap. So I do think Mo was the fittest or the fastest guy from the 4 guys, he just had the best position to win the race.
Great Job for Mo for always showing up on a championship races.
Naturalrunner wrote:
No They did not, and Mo Farah is not the greatest Ever. That title goes to Kenenissa Bekele
I think even on this race, Mo won because of His better tactics. He would have lost this if he was not on the first line. The other 3 guys lost to Mo because they were running on the outside line and trying to pass someone who was running 52.61/Lap. So I do think Mo was the fittest or the fastest guy from the 4 guys, he just had the best position to win the race.
Great Job for Mo for always showing up on a championship races.
It definitely looks like the others were a little cocksure (or just stupid/amnesic) to think they could go from a demonstrated winning tactic to deciding that beating Mo at his game was the better option...
It's counterintuitive that there seemed to be more tactical coordination across several nations vying for medals in the Championship than there would be a meaningless circuit event.
mako wrote:
Considering how he avoids meets with the biggest competion where fast times are chased, what leads you to the conclusion that he will be showing up in fast marathons?
I would expect him to run these Great North runs in UK which will be set for him to win and then he will probably show up in European and World championships which are skipped by the best (such as Kipchoge).
It will be exactly the same as in the track. Don't expect any fast marathon times, but he may add some WC medal
To his credit, on the track, he has competed with everyone that showed up at the WC and Olympics, and this is the pinnacle of the competition.
It was OK for him to run a half marathon now and then while focusing on the track, but now that he officially moves to the road, he has to focus on the marathon (and he stated he would). If he chooses not to run the big ones (Berlin, NY, London), I think people will realise this is a step down. In particular as a Londoner, he cannot miss London that also happens to be the best marathon in the world and the closest to a WC final on the track.
Still, maybe you are right and he will stick to half marathons and WC marathons. And the British commentators will keep on marvelling at everything he does. But that would be pretty unique, wouldn't it? Are there examples of athletes who reached the best level and then kept on competing for years at a lower level?
Naturalrunner wrote:
He would have lost this if he was not on the first line. The other 3 guys lost to Mo because they were running on the outside line and trying to pass someone who was running 52.61/Lap. So I do think Mo was the fittest or the fastest guy from the 4 guys, he just had the best position to win the race.
After six years of dominance, the internet still believes that the field actually just chooses to be behind a ten time global champion distance runner after 11.5 laps.
Never change Coach Internet wrote:
Naturalrunner wrote:He would have lost this if he was not on the first line. The other 3 guys lost to Mo because they were running on the outside line and trying to pass someone who was running 52.61/Lap. So I do think Mo was the fittest or the fastest guy from the 4 guys, he just had the best position to win the race.
After six years of dominance, the internet still believes that the field actually just chooses to be behind a ten time global champion distance runner after 11.5 laps.
Especially when Mo hits the front, slows it down basically forcing everyone to bunch up and gather for their kick. Then he wobbles, overstrides, looks everywhere but foward and generally flails around so god d@mned much they don't want to or can't take the lead again to force the pace. And if people do take the risk to pass in those jockey moments Mo starts shoving. Textbook Mo.
It surprises me how much the others let Mo push them around. I remember shoving back when guys would get overly territorial in races. But it's obvious that the officials at the elite level know it's the Mo Show so some athletes are treated more equal than the others.
There's no disputing that it's all together an effective tactic.
They could easily take the lead 600 or 500 to go and not let Mo take the first line but every race accept this year world championship, they easy let him take the first line. They could have sprint as the same speed as him and not let him get the first line but whether they afraid or thought they could beat from behind, they let him take the lead easily. Everyone knows how MO wins the race so why dont they take the lead with 600 to go and make MO farah work it? No one knows but I think that is the best strategy to beat MO Farah.
Naturalrunner wrote:
They could easily take the lead 600 or 500 to go and not let Mo take the first line but every race accept this year world championship, they easy let him take the first line. They could have sprint as the same speed as him and not let him get the first line but whether they afraid or thought they could beat from behind, they let him take the lead easily. Everyone knows how MO wins the race so why dont they take the lead with 600 to go and make MO farah work it? No one knows but I think that is the best strategy to beat MO Farah.
I disagree. He is better at speeding up than they are. They aren't doing it because 90% of the time they can't.