SlowFatMaster wrote:
McGrady ran 1:07.6 for 600y. USAFCCCA says multiply by 1.12 to convert to 600m. So that comes out to 1:15.71 for McGrady.
McGrady did run a 1:14.9 outdoors in Australia in 1970. That beat the 1:15.3 of Olympic 800m champion Ralph Doubell in the same race.
Thanks. Sports Illustrated used to love (indoors only) Martin McGrady back in the day.
Sport is lost wrote:
Blind to the facts wrote:Haha the spirit of the rules. Love it. It's like the rules, except not written down anywhere and are completely ambiguous.
No Kenyans, is that the spirit of the rules? I don't actually know. No Europeans older than 19? No farting on the start line?
Confucius says:
"Those who fart on the start line will have bad start.
Those who fart while at the start line get extra boost"
A realist says:
"Those who are classified as Freshman but are significantly older are age cheats"
pyhlosophy
Those who can't spell common word 'philosophy' dumb as rock.
Blind to the fact wrote:
painful to read wrote:There are rules. These athletes and teams are WINNING following those rules.
Don't get mad because they are playing successfully by the rules.
I'm surprised Letsrunner Trumpkins aren't more supportive of these WINNERS.
These athletes that you speak about, and UTEP, are not operating under the spirit of the rules.
Stop trying to make excuses for what is obvious.
UTEP has always pulled crap like this. So did WSU back in the day (Henry Rono lol).
Countless have broken 1:15.
Lee Evans at #12 still from 1968. Echo Summit was South Lake Tahoe tune-up for the "altitude" trial. Mark Winzenreid at #25 still.
There will be lots and lots of sub 1:46 guys that have hit 1:15 or faster outdoors in training
Abq altitude of about 1 mile above sea level gives an advantage at 800 on down--or, no argument, 600m down. Korir is clearly much older than most freshmen. Overaged freshman is not a misnomer, because it means that someone is older than the normal freshman, which is 18 for much of the year and 19 for the remainder. He will likely be a force outdoors.
habs wrote:
SAlly V wrote:Not the best quality but here:
Slightly higher quality (original?) via Jonah Koech:
https://www.facebook.com/jonah.koech.1/videos/vb.100002830147018/1003004779803851/
Great job from the cameraman. Was this done during some sort of architecture project? He just took the wrong time for his work during some track meet?
It should be noted that this is really an altitude world record so a * is appropriate.
In case one wonders about coaches bringing in athletes from other countries to run on their teams don't. They could care less about the kids academic qualifications or even if they speak English at all.
...but we are talking about indoor 600's. No one has ever run faster indoors.
Only 27 athletes have every broken 1:15 - so it's a pretty impressive run regardless of his age.
calculo wrote:
1'14.97i is damn quick !
nearest conversion to outdoors is the 800 & trying conversion with Kip's 1'41.11/1'42.67 in same season -> outdoors of :
1'13.83
however, this was not a formal paced attempt unlike most other fast indoor 600s, but a real race with wide running at bell
also pace was likely too slow at bell as kid had company, then took out 20m of the field in 200m !!!
quite clearly, pace at bell was on for 77+ indoors but kid blasted last 200 off clearly too slow a pace at the bell for him
i have no doubt with ideal fast pace to bell, the kid wouda been lot quicker
my best estimate is ideal race outdoors right now of
~ 1'13-low
as for altitude, ~ 5,000' for 600m run is neutral
nearest event is 800 & nairobi at similar altitude has best of 1'42.12 run by guy who ran 1'40.91 at sea-level soon after
5,000' is at worst neutral for a 600 run, more likely handicapping by coupla tenths, so the kid has legit claim to be in 1'13-flat outdoor shape
this is all in january !!!
I am wary about disagreeing with you because I've seen how you react here before.
However, the splits can be obtained from that video if you watch carefully. Both boys hold through 400m in 49 mid-high. The pace was good and korir had the other kid as a personal pacemaker.
Korir holds on and runs a low 25 last 200m where as the other kid dies badly and runs a 27 mid. He nearly got caught by third place because he went out too hard.
I don't think this run was worth 1:13 low. He held the pace, fatiguing a little over the last 200m. He didn't drop a 23s last 200m off of 77s pace.
It was also altitude assisted as someone said.
Can't you go one thread without bringing Jim Ryun in to the topic!
Seriously - you've now got him run in 43.5!! This kid gets quicker ever year.
Basically you are saying that Jim could have run 1:09 point for 600.
Okrap, I just realized that the weirdo trolls calculo/ventolin and rjm33 are one in the same. This basket case must literally read this board every waking hour.
So the 400m WR improves 0.26 over the span of nearly 30 years and we now need to totally rethink the event! Rubbish
You really need to go back and rethink how much running rounds really takes out of fully trained athletes, as you've used that excuse way too often to justify everyone being able to run faster than they actually have.
You started this with Cruz's 1:42 run and are now carry it thru to this, which has nothing at all to do with a 600m race indoors.
Start your own thread on the topic and move on.
It's very easy to get the splits calculo.
You can see the clock display 11 seconds. If you watch the video on a computer video editing software you can note down that time and work out the splits using the footage.
It's really very easy. You could even do it with a crude method of pausing the video when you see the clock, and then starting a stopwatch as you click play on the video.
Just go and do it yourself. From when 11.x seconds (I don't remember exactly now) shows on the clock, Korir crosses the 400m mark 38s later. You can also use this to calculate the first 200m.
49 mid is a solid pace for a ~1:15.
You can work out his last 200m with a stop watch calculo. I got 25 low over and over, it's easy. You can see exactly when he crosses the line at the start and end of the lap from the same angle.
The guy racing next to him dies badly and so Korir looks extra spectacular.
You can check the first 200m against the previous method I put forwards by taking away the easily timed last 400m from the total finishing time.
I can read, thank you, but that doesn't mean I accept your opinions. The 600m is not the 800m
Guy runs world record
Letsrun spends hours explaining how crap his performance is.
Good thing he did not run 1:20.00
Incredible...
Who says it was crap?
Tfyffyfgyggvhgvh wrote:
Guy runs world record
Letsrun spends hours explaining how crap his performance is.
Good thing he did not run 1:20.00
Incredible...
well that record lasted long...
Cas Loxsom 1:14.91
Isaiah Harris 1:14.96
at Penn State National