2012 NCAA X COUNTRY CHAMPIONSHIPS: discussions, spoilers, and predictions

I think you misunderstood what I'm saying...if the coach has reins on them at regionals then I'm sure he will not allow them to jeopardy the team title at NCAA.

If teams with a shot at the team title top runners aren't let loose at regionals then they certainly won't be given the okay to pursue individual title at NCAA.

On second thought is there really an team with a shot at team title with an individual who have a legitimate shot at the individual title?

Im torn between Florida State and Iowa State on the women's side.. I want to see FSU win after last years debacle, but Iowa State looks insanely good. They dominated their conference meet and looked like they were out for a tempo run. Both teams have Kenyan Ringers (Saina, Lagat) which puts them over the top of the next 3...

Oregon, Arizona, Washington will probably be battling it out for 3rd unless one of them has a great day.

I think EKU could play spoiler and sneak into the top 10. Also, don't count out Soufiane Bouchikhi to possibly go top 10 individual on a good day.

Just cannot find it within myself to cheer for Florida State as long as Harvey is the coach. Just saying.

I predict Elise DeRoo will take the individual W

Grow up the discussion is about DI NCAA and Elise DeRoo will not win the NCAA DI X Championships.

That doesn't make any sense. If a team can cruise through regionals easily there is no point in sending their top runner after the regional win, since all that would do is make them more tired for nationals the following weekend. Wisconsin pack runs regionals every year and Bairu, Tegenkamp, Solinsky, and Ahmed last year were all cut loose to chase the individual gold at nationals.

Wisconsin and Ahmed

SoSorry wrote:

Grow up the discussion is about DI NCAA and Elise DeRoo will not win the NCAA DI X Championships.

Oh I'm sorry I'm sorry I thought this was America! Land of the free! It's a free country idn't it! He can say anything he wants! Anyone that runs 19:55 for 6k or gives Emily Infield a run for her money is worth mentioning.

stats guy wrote:

SoSorry wrote:

Grow up the discussion is about DI NCAA and Elise DeRoo will not win the NCAA DI X Championships.

Oh I'm sorry I'm sorry I thought this was America! Land of the free! It's a free country idn't it! He can say anything he wants! Anyone that runs 19:55 for 6k or gives Emily Infield a run for her money is worth mentioning.

19:17* for 6k

1) Oklahoma State

2) Colorado

3) Stanford

4) Texas

5) Wisconsin

6) BYU

7) Oklahoma

8) Iona

9) Portland

10) Oregon

REGIONALS

First-Round Frenzy

As the NCAA Basketball Championship has the color and surprises of its first round, NCAA Cross Country has that and more on Friday.

At nine venues across the nation — including local teams at Hammonasset Beach State Park in Madison, Wis., and at Penn State's golf course in State College — slots for the NCAA Championship will be determined on course.

The top two teams at each regional will earn an automatic berth to the Championship, slated for Nov. 17 at the Tom Sawyer State Park in Louisville, Ky. Thirteen other teams (each gender) will receive 'at-large' spots to the national championship.

Additionally, the top four runners from each region who are not on a team that qualified for nationals will run for the individual title in Louisville as well.

Here is a region-by-region look at Friday's action (All times Eastern):

Great Lakes Regional

Zimmer Championship Course: Madison, Wis.

Women run at 1 pm followed by the men at 2:15 pm

Top Six Teams:

Men: (6) Wisconsin; (12) Michigan; (20) Indiana; (28) Notre Dame; Eastern Michigan; Michigan State

Women: (6) Michigan; (11) Michigan State; (18) Toledo; (23) Notre Dame; Wisconsin; Butler

Mid-Atlantic Regional

Blue & White Golf Course: State College, Pa.

Women run at noon followed by the men at 1:15 pm

Top Six Teams:

Men: (13) Princeton; (24) Georgetown; Villanova; Penn State; St. Joseph's; La Salle

Women: (9) Georgetown; (15) Penn State; (25) Villanova; West Virginia, Princeton; La Salle

Midwest Regional

Missouri State Course: Joplin, Mo.

Women run at 1 pm followed by the men at 2:15 pm

Top Six Teams:

Men: (1) Oklahoma State; (8) Oklahoma; (19) Tulsa; (29) Kansas; Illinois; Missouri

Women: (2) Iowa State; (21) Oklahoma State; (28) Minnesota; Tulsa; Northwestern; Illinois

Mountain Regional

Collindale Golf Course: Fort Collins, Colo.

Women run at 2 pm followed by the men at 3 pm

Top Six Teams:

Men: (2) Colorado; (7) BYU; (16) New Mexico; (18) Northern Arizona; Air Force; UTEP

Women: (13) Weber State; (17) New Mexico; (24) Colorado; Colorado State; Southern Utah, BYU

Northeast Regional

Hammonasset Beach State Park: Madison, Conn.

Women run at noon followed by the men at 1:15 pm

Top Six Teams:

Men: (4) Iona; (14) Syracuse; (22) Columbia; Providence; Dartmouth; Cornell

Women: (8) Cornell; (16) UConn; (20) Providence; (27) Boston College; Harvard; Brown

South Regional

Apalachee Regional Park: Tallahassee, Fla.

Women run at 8:30 am followed by the men at 9:15 am

Top Six Teams:

Men: (23) Florida State; (26) Georgia; Florida; East Tennessee State; Georgia Tech; Tennessee

Women: (1) Florida State; (14) Florida; Vanderbilt; Mississippi; Georgia; Lipscomb

South Central Regional

Agri Park: Fayetteville, Ark.

Women run at noon followed by the men at 1:15 pm

Top Six Teams:

Men: (5) Texas; (10) Arkansas; (29) Texas A&M; McNeese State; Lamar, Texas-Arlington

Women: (12) Arkansas; (22) Texas; SMU, LSU, Texas A&M; TCU

Southeast Regional

McAlpine Creek Park: Charlotte, N.C.

Women run at noon followed by the men at 1:15 pm

Top Six Teams:

Men: (15) Eastern Kentucky; (17) Virginia Tech; (21) Virginia; N.C. State; Louisville; William & Mary

Women: (10) Duke; (19) William & Mary; (30) N.C. State; Kentucky; North Carolina; Virginia

West Regional

Jefferson Golf Course: Seattle, Wash.

Women run at 3 pm followed by the men at 4:15 pm

Top Six Teams:

Men: (3) Stanford; (9) Portland; (11) Oregon; (25) Arizona State; (27) UCLA; Washington

Women: (3) Oregon; (4) Arizona; (5) Stanford; (7) Washington; (26) San Francisco; (29) UCLA

Note, these times appear to be EST, not local time. Rather a silly way to expess things without being explicit (not VIPAM's fault, the site was clueless as to potential confusion).

Also, what is the thing about "Hammonasset Beach State Park in Madison, Wis"

Well, Orsen, you should have been an editor. Or, maybe you are? Expressing all times from the perspective of one time zone helps the most avid fans handicap the non-auto and individual qualifiers real time and all day on Friday. Would you prefer Zulu? Should be a great day of racing.

It misses that the events are all at the same time, local: All you need to know is the one time set: Noon and 1:15 and have a notion of the time zone: Things like Pacific is Pacific time, Mountain is Mountain time, Midwest is Midwest/Central...

Instead, we get nine seemingly disparate times with no organizing principle.

MULTIPLE Regional Men's Team & INDIVIDUAL prediction reports:

You'll be surprised to see Arizona isn't picked to go 1-2 at NCAA X Championships and if Kenyans are picked to sweep the top five spots!

http://thewoodrunningreport.blogspot.com/

WEST:

This will be the BEST race in the country....Will Hollander leave any dought she is the best runner in the country and destroy the hopes of anyone thinking they may want to stay with her at Nationals! Will she crush their dreams!

Laura Hollander (Cal Poly)

Kathy Kroeger (Stanford)

Jordan Hasay (Oregon)

Elvin Kibet (Arizona)

Alexi Pappas (Oregon)

Allie Woodward (Oregon)

Jennifer Bergman (Arizona)

Shelby Houlihan (Arizona State)

Kelsey Santisteban (California)

Jessica Tonn (Stanford)

Sarah Sumpter (UC-Davis)

Megan Goethals (Washington)

Aisling Cuffe (Stanford)

Cayla Hatton (Stanford)

Katie Flood (Washington)

BTW: There are FIVE Footlocker National Champions in this Race (Womens)!!!!!!!!!!...can you name them all?

...Will sweet little Laura do her part in keeping a Footlocker champ from winning their first XC championship and keep the Footlocer JINX a live on Nov 17th?...if she don't Salina probably will!

.I am sure they (all 5) will all make it to the BIg Dance! Poor Jordan...I really thought this would be her year! I remember in her early days when she would take it out in 5:06!...but I don't think she can hang with Laura without taking the chance of blowing up and hurting the team.

Hollander will go out hard and run away with it as the big dogs (Hasay, Kroeger, Pappas, Flood, etc) will just run solid to help the team qualify.

At Nationals it'll be a different story. Hasay is peaking well and I think she'll be right in it. I also think a small group will run Hollander down at Nationals.

I only count four Footlocker champs...

Jordan Hasay

Kathy Kroeger

Megan Goethals

Aisling Cuffe

fifth?

I think it was Elise DeRoo.