Wow I typically dont reply to the trash that goes on within these message boards but this one got me pretty heated. Clearly you are a UP runneer and dont have a clue what you are talking about and could not appreciate the hardships and pitfalls that the PSU program has suffered in the last severl years.
PSU is the largest university in Oregon, this year enrollment will be somewhere in the range of 28,000 (projected enrollment for this year) students. Oregon is a close second with 20,000. PSU has to fight year in and year out to keep our program running. Cutting trips, staying at smaller low key meets to cut cost while the other major schools as far as running is concerned for men (Oregon and UP) are traveling to high caliber meets, and I wont even bother with the details of mens scholarships because they are practically non existant. The truth of the matter is that PSU, like many schools in the nation can not finance a serious program, if it were not for title 9 both mens and womens track and cross country would be long gone. PSU has a significant number of problems and trust me the #1 issues for us typically does not include how much we party. Consider this, Oregon gets new uniforms each year, are far as I am aware maybe even several times a year. In my 4 years as a PSU athlete we got enough new jerseys one year to cover just the men, not the women (they got new jerseys the next year) but that means for one year we were mixed and matched on the mens and womens side. You try to make a team feel like one when we dont even have the same color jerseys on. I am not a angry little brother type but these kind of discrepancies become very apparent in this situation. Its a case of the haves and have nots, not to say that Oregon does not earn everything they get as they are a spectacular program, but being on the haves side encourages better recruiting being on the have nots discourages better recuriting and that is just the facts.
Top that off with our coaching situation. I was recurited on coach (1), coach (1) then quit and that job was taken place by coach (2), coach (2) was then fired/let go and coach (3) took his place with assistant (1), Coach (3) at the end of my time at PSU quit and now assistant (1) is now coach (4). That makes 4 coaches in just under 5 years. Team unity is never easy, then you add in changing coaching alliances amongst teammates and you can see where I am going with that. Oh and this year they also hired a Co-Coach for Cross country/ long distance track, so make the grand total 5 coaches in under 5 years. Another thing explain to me how a Co-coach is supposed to work? Making teams work a one is possibly one of the hardest things to do, stability, trust, unity are things you need, explain to me how that works with out stable coaching?
PSU has its problems, and to respond to your accusation, yes PSU does party. But I ask you this, name a school in the nation that has a year long dry season (minus BYU obviously and extremeist religious schools) and does not take atleast one night after a season is over to cut lose. I have talked with people from teams from all over the country (UP, Oregon, Duke, Stanford..etc) who have serious progreams and the one thing they all have in common is that they all like to party. Ryan was a guy who got mixed up in the wrong crowd, and trust me we tried time and time again to get him back on track. The kid had endless potential even when we knew he was doing drugs. The PROGRAM that "sux" tried to pull him up from the hole he was digging for himself...we woke him up in his dorm when he slept through practice, we took him back when he asked our coach for help and we invited him on team events to make him feel like a part of our group. HOW DARE YOU say that our program sucks (LEARN HOW TO SPELL) and it explains why what happened to him happened. If you have ever had any hardship in your life you would know that its never the symptom of one specific thing, its always a combination of personal choice, your surroundings and the circumstances you find yourself in.
I ran for PSU for 4 years, I gave up the chance to have a full time job and take more credits to allow myself to get in the training and the time you need for threapy and rest (I took summer classes to make up for the shortfall and graduate on time). Sunday long runs after saturday meets, weekday workouts with midterms or finals that night and hours and hours spent with a greater purpose. Sound an awful lot like the program you are on? And yes, I partied, I partied more than many schools do, but I dont for one minute regret it, because with all the problems that PSU faces by the end of my time there I was proud of what I had accomplished given the most dismal of situations. And yes I would have liked to accomplish more, but I wouldnt trade anything I did for another chance. I was one of the few that actually made it through that program, I was not one of 100 that tries to make its way through UP each year. PSU is not a factory, you have to really want to be there and love running to make it work.
I AM PROUD OF MY VIKS!