pac 10 is good but... wrote:
What is the national championship count like after you throw out sports like equestrian, water polo, synchronized swimming, etc that the rest of the country doesn't participate in. Stanford routinely wins the commissioners cup with a horrible football and basketball team, but a sh!tload of points in fringe sports.
Also, many of the PAC 10 championships are decades old and have no bearing on how successful the current programs are. By your logic, Notre Dame is still the best football program because they've got the most national titles.
You can't be serious.
You really need to do some homework.
The Sears Cup Trophy does not include Equestrian or Synchro Swimming.
I'm actually a CAL alum and would beg to differ that Stanford has been "horrible" in football and basketball as you claim. Granted, they haven't had a lot of success in football as of late under coaches Tye Willingham and Buddy Teevens, but Jim Harbaugh has been turning their program around in only 3 short years; hence the upset of #7 ranked Oregon and now finally getting ranked in the Top 25 this year. I would also predict that current Stanford QB Andrew Luck will be a top Heisman candidate before his career is over and a Top 10 NFL draft choice.
But Basketball?
Stanford has been horrible in Basketball?
You can't be serious.
Care to guess how many times the Men's and Women's basketball programs have been in the Sweet 16? The Elite 8? The Final Four? The Championship game?
And as far as the sports in the Sears Cup Directors Trophy are concerned, they don't include Rugby ( which CAL has won 20 Championships in ), but they do include RIFLE SHOOTING and BOWLING for those Midwestern schools like Nebraska. They also include SKIING for schools like Colorado, as well as FENCING for the Ivy League.
Those are the only "fringe" sports that I would highlight.
I don't believe that Stanford has a Rifle, Bowling, Fencing, or Ski team. Neither does Cal.
And if you think that soccer, volleyball, golf, tennis, or swimming are FRINGE sports, then you better not tell that to Texas or Michigan or Auburn or Oklahoma or UNC or Miami.