have you ever stopped to help someone on a run?

the general rule is you have no duty to help anyone. there is no Good Samaritan law.

however, once you do begin to aid a helpless person you have triggered a duty of care to that helpless person. if you do not act as a "reasonably prudent person" would in aiding the helpless person you can be held liable for any further damages sustained by the helpless person.

so what should you do? say eff that helpless person and keep on running. its better not to get involved.

On my beach runs, I've seen plenty of tourists drive their cars into the soft sand and get stuck. I'll be damned if I'm going to dig and push them out when all they have to do is wait for a redneck in a 4 x 4 with a rope. Besides if I stopped and helped every tourist and never get my run in.

I'm telling your wife.

Well, I hope you don't generalize if you ever graduate because people in healthcare are held to a different standard and are expected to stop and help.And I am not sure if you are trolling or not, I am going to lean towards hopefully you are, because at some point in your life you are going to have an emergency or need medical attention and hopefully people passing you aren't in the third mile of their recovery run.If any of you really feel the your run is more important than a person in need I really really pity you.

law school wrote:

the general rule is you have no duty to help anyone. there is no Good Samaritan law.

so what should you do? say eff that helpless person and keep on running. its better not to get involved.

On a run just recently with a few other guys. We are on an out and back run, and we pass two guys on mountian bikes on the side of the trail. On our way back, my friend asks "Is everything alright?". Teh one guy says his friend isn't feeling too well and asks us to notify a park ranger. We tell him it would take about 20 minutes, so my friend says "I'll ride your mountain bike down the trail and get the ranger". My friend takes off down the trail, and the three remaining guys continue down the trail. We get to the trailhead, and my friend is there with the ranger, and as we're approaching him and the ranger, an off-road paramedic truck rolls up, followed by an ambulance and a firetruck. We tried to leave, but my friend became the "reporting witness", and had to stay and file a report. The rest of us left.

My friend ended up running 3 miles instead of 6, and the guy who wasn't feeling good will probably feel even worse after he gets the bill for ambulance!

Nice. Thanks. Will you mention my nice shoes while you are at it?

mcgato wrote:

I'm telling your wife.

law school wrote:

the general rule is you have no duty to help anyone. there is no Good Samaritan law.

once I was running and stopped to help out a skater kid after he had taken a nasty spill where it looked like he had hit his head. I stopped, helped him up, and asked if he was alright, to which he replied "I think I am okay, thanks for helping me out" in a very nice and sincere tone. I asked him where he lived and he pointed to his house which we were right in front of. He seemed a little dazed so I went and knocked on the door and told his parents that he had taken a spill. Once they were in control of the situation I said I was going to continue running. They said they were grateful to live in a neighborhood with so many nice people and the kid again thanked me for my help.

A week later I ran by the house and saw the kid and a couple of his buddies skateboarding, and was greeted with "nice short-shorts, fag" and "run forrest run."

This past July I was out for a ten mile run early in the morning and came across a motorcycle accident minutes after it happened. A car had pulled out in front of a motorcycle that was going 50+ mph. The guy (wearing an open faced helmet) was spitting up blood. Me and another guy picked his bike up off him. Paramedics were there in a few minutes and hauled him off. I went back to my run and almost threw up. I found out yesterday that he died after being in the hospital for five weeks.

That's not true. Maybe healthcare professionals sign something obligating to help, but under california law, nobody is under any obligation to help someone whom they have no relation to. In fact, I just read a case where a man was seriously injured and a doctor performed emergency surgery on him. Even still the guy died and had a substantial trust set up. The doctor sued the decedent's trust in order to be compensated for the surgery performed.The court held that the doctor was under no obligation to aid, and that no contract was enforceable. Had the decedent been able to create the contract, the court could not be certain that he would.

what?!?! wrote:

Well, I hope you don't generalize if you ever graduate because people in healthcare are held to a different standard and are expected to stop and help.

law school wrote:

the general rule is you have no duty to help anyone. there is no Good Samaritan law.

so what should you do? say eff that helpless person and keep on running. its better not to get involved.

i was out cooling down after a workout and some kids ball came rolling towards me i veered 3 meters to the left and kicked the ball back to him.... i think he called me his hero or something,... no biggy.

Your story has absolutely nothing to do with whether the doctor had an obligation or not. He had no reason to be compensated.

But since you said that healthcare professionals do not have that obligation would you mind telling that to my wife (she is a doctor) she is falsely under the impression that she is obligated to help.

[quote]law school wrote:

That's not true. Maybe healthcare professionals sign something obligating to help, but under california law, nobody is under any obligation to help someone whom they have no relation to.

In fact, I just read a case where a man was seriously injured and a doctor performed emergency surgery on him. Even still the guy died and had a substantial trust set up. The doctor sued the decedent's trust in order to be compensated for the surgery performed.

The court held that the doctor was under no obligation to aid, and that no contract was enforceable. Had the decedent been able to create the contract, the court could not be certain that he would.

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i have stopped to kick the crap out of some punks who kept shouting abuse at me....

yesterday, a little kid was hot dogging on his huffy bike and went over the handlebars about 150 meters ahead of me on this dirt trail... I stopped to ask if everything was cool and he said "yes" through tears... He reminded me of myself when I was his age. I remember doing the exact same thing... Somehow, that got me through the rest of my run.

I helped some old lady by changing the flat tire on her car, which was blocking rush hour traffic. When I was done she tried to thank me by giving me the only thing she had, a quart of oil. I declined her offer and ran off...

Let me first start off by saying I will help anyone on the roads.

However, whenever people ask for directions, I always give the wrong directions on purpose.

This thread reminded me of this classic from The Onion

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nations_joggers_sick_of_finding