It is also just like Bill Rodger’s. Winning Boston one year and not making the Olympic team the following. It is the same as every late 30s runner. They are good for a long time and then they are 90s slower a year later. Then 3mins. Go down the list of everyone and the pattern is the same. And across most sports. People are doing great and they lose a step. They all think they are one training cycle to get back. It rarely happens..
Bill Rodgers never won Boston and failed to make the team the next year.
Technically he did fail to make the 1980 team after winning Boston in 1979. Rodgers chose not to run the trials in May 1980 because the US had already withdrawn from the Moscow Olympics before the Marathon Trials took place. Instead he ran and won Boston again.
He has all the signs of aging. On his face, on his pace and...and on his uphill strength. Uphill strength often goes away quickly as you age. If you are not aware of this, you are lucky, it means you are still young enough not to know that.
This is so true. When I was younger and running well I noticed the older guys getting slower up the hills we raced on regularly. They were still strong on the flats but not the uphills. Then it started with me. I cannot run uphills to save my life anymore. Kipchoge is showing the effects of aging like all the rest of us will.
His pretty rapid and unexpected decline over the past few years is set against a back drop of a doping bust bonanza in Kenya and his training group. Why have has his performances tailed off so quickly and at the same time of so many drug busts? The two seem too intertwined to me
It's because he's older than 39 and he's caught up with father time. But he's also never performed well on hilly courses. He's only a flat course kind of guy
They could be linked, but I've also heard reports that the guy was actually born in 1976.
If that's the case, he had some incredible performances well into his 40s, and the sharp drop-off began at the age of 46.
1976, per these “reports?” So he burst onto the scene at age 26/27 looking like a teenager, ran his first marathon WR at 42, broke 2 in an exhibition at 43, ran a 2:01:09 WR at 46 and 2:02:42 at 47 and now here we are. Sure, that all seems so likely.
My old college teammate, who is my age, went to the same high school as Kipchoge. He said Kipchoge was two grades ahead of him, and I'm currently 43.
I also visited Kipchoge's home in Elgon View in 2005. He was at his training camp in Ngong Hills, but his wife said he was 26.
His pretty rapid and unexpected decline over the past few years is set against a back drop of a doping bust bonanza in Kenya and his training group. Why have has his performances tailed off so quickly and at the same time of so many drug busts? The two seem too intertwined to me
I think he's just getting old. The man won the World Championships 5000m in 2003. For context, the man who won just the gold in the mens 1500m at this Olympics was 2 years old at that time.
So he trains for 20 years, consistently achieving new heights and not appearing to have a shuffle in his step. Then suddenly, he trained too much?
Look at the fall of Farah and Rupp. Asbel Kiprop (caught). This is eerily similar.
Exactly darling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't get enough satisfaction seeing all these comments one by one saying and implicating Kipchoge and to same extent Kipyegon for PEDs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are so right because you know how to test for susceptibility in space-time of an athlete's circumstances with respect to doping. You know which arguments and line of thinking is susceptible and critical for the doping argument.
Kipchoge as I mentioned earlier, has been too professional if I might say. No sex, no alcohol, no other distraction, living like a MONK in training camp and importantly away from wife and children!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This has never changed throughout his marathoning career especially, not one bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But YET, his results changed from high heaven super stardom to lowly hell on earth and why is that folks???????????????
Old age?????? Hell NO folks!!!!! THAT IS NOT THE SUSCEPTIBLE factor in the presence of these other factors of him living, eating, sleeping, doing like a MONK!!!!!!!!!!!
The MONK factor is too extremely severe and heavy to bear as compared to OLD AGE, you feeling me????
37, 38, 39 isn't that OLD for a MONK!!!!!
37, 38, 39 year old MONKS in India and China living in the mountains in extremely isolated and disciplined manner like Kipchoge in kenya are terrific Kung Fu or Martial Arts masters, they are at their peak, or, retain their peak very well into their 40s and 50s because they know how to control their breath/breathing hence their thoughts and bodies!!!!!!! They generate lots of sacred life forces inside all their bodies throughout disciplined and moral living, speaking and acting.
For Kipchoge to tail off like a vertical cliff like freefall gravity at 38, 39, 40 is simply the stuff of LACK OF DOPING compared to EARLIER DOPING, you feeling me?????
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His pretty rapid and unexpected decline over the past few years is set against a back drop of a doping bust bonanza in Kenya and his training group. Why have has his performances tailed off so quickly and at the same time of so many drug busts? The two seem too intertwined to me
It's because he's older than 39 and he's caught up with father time. But he's also never performed well on hilly courses. He's only a flat course kind of guy
I assure you Kipchoge was 18 in 2003. The boy was too innocent and docile to be in his 20s LOL!!!!!! I remembered Bekele at 19 and 20 as well, exactly the same boyish innocence as Kipchoge!!!!!!
I will know a man if he is in his twenties you feeling me?????
I have read stories on this site detailing how his level of dominance and longevity at the top were unprecedented, so I kind of figured he should have already started to decline. It's odd that we wonder why an almost 40 year old guy who had been on top of his event for almost 10 years is declining. It's the natural order.
I disagree politely sir!!!!!! It's the doping order!!!!!!! While I also admit there is a ton of anthropogenic RF exposure in Iten, Eldoret and Kaptagat these days, I was actually shocked to see a 2G/3G/4G phone mast right beside a stadium that Agnes Ngetich the road 10k wr holder in 28:46 was doing kilometer repeats in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I nearly threw up on my blouse you feeling me sir???????
And then she tailed off as fast as she rose to the top, failing to win the world cross, failing to qualify for 5k or 10k olympics, just a total goner right now. Look where she is now, she's gone darling!!!!!! She has been cellularly or physiologically maimed (FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE THAT IS, NOT NORMAL EVERYDAY LIVING) by the constant irradiation of the 2G/4G/3G phone mast day after day while training beside it, father time will naturally accumulate the harmful effects for her and take her!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel sorry for her really!!!! More athletes and coaches ought to obey my words and instructions regarding anthropogenic RF because it's their careers to lose and not mine!!!!
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