Misleading finish, she was in way over her head. There are dozens of runners not even in the final who would've been able to run that pace, then get 16 seconds put on them over the last 2 laps. Even Schweitzer and Kelati put 8-10 seconds on her. Not that impressive.
There was a profound difference between the women's race and the men's race. Had the women, relative to their world record, run as fast as the men, Valby wouldn't have ever been in the camera shot except when being lapped by Chebet. The women's race was slow and tactical, which meant the US women (all of whom had no shot at medaling - and I root for both Kulati and Karissa) were able to hang in there longer. Nico really did run an exceptionally good race. To match Nico Valby would have had to run under 30 minutes. On the positive side, I hope she had a great experience.
Anyone mind explaining for the non Americans what the deal is with this woman? Why the hype?
Because this 21 yr old is the greatest distance runner to come out of the NCAA, winning five titles in a single year. She has been plagued with injuries, and has an unconventional approach to training, putting a lot of weekly hours on an Arc Trainer.
And this board is American based, and distance focused primarily.
Anyone mind explaining for the non Americans what the deal is with this woman? Why the hype?
I think it comes down to this: She is attractive, she is a college runner (until recently), she gives funny interviews that are clearly not scripted talking points, she seems more relatable than a lot of elites, and she has a cadre of young ladies who love her style.
well that and the fact is she has run times in college - both in XC and 5000/10000 that noone else did before her wile leading races quite often from the gun.
Anyone mind explaining for the non Americans what the deal is with this woman? Why the hype?
I think it comes down to this: She is attractive, she is a college runner (until recently), she gives funny interviews that are clearly not scripted talking points, she seems more relatable than a lot of elites, and she has a cadre of young ladies who love her style.
Uhhhhhhh... She's really good looking and she's really good for a young American. All that other stuff is just fodder, cuz you can't keep saying damn you're kind of smokin
Anyone mind explaining for the non Americans what the deal is with this woman? Why the hype?
Because this 21 yr old is the greatest distance runner to come out of the NCAA, winning five titles in a single year. She has been plagued with injuries, and has an unconventional approach to training, putting a lot of weekly hours on an Arc Trainer.
And this board is American based, and distance focused primarily.
And relative to the best Americans, being 27yrs and 28yrs old, that have raced professionally for years, she was only a few seconds behind them. Valby is very raw, needing much work, but showing much potential.
yeah she ran her 30:50 with 15:30/15:20 5k splits and this one she ran 30:59 with a 15:51/15:08 5k split, im much more impressed with this out of both performances, next year she could shave off a bunch of time from her PB
The conditions were much more humid and warm, compared to her Bryan Clay race.
Valby probably spent too much time bouncing around in the pack, rather than just chilling on the rail, but this experience was huge.
Realistically, I don’t think the Olympics, certainly in the 10000m, was even on her radar until a few months ago, after NCAA Indoors, after The Ten, after Monson got injured.
You really think she shows a lot of potential? And the glaring lack of foot speed isn't an issue?
I mean I hope she proves me wrong but you basically got to be sub 355 1500 to compete on the track right now in women's running
Like someone else said there was quite a gap put on her and also her form looks a little shaky, but hey I hope she proves otherwise
Of course her form looks shaky. The media reports she heavily cross-trains because of past foot injury issues.
So there is obviously huge possibility, but also unknown. The possibility is that now that the Olympics have come and gone, and this whirlwind year has come to a close, they can devote more time to what may be extensive PT work to rise above the injury issues, which can then lead to improvements in her speed and form.
College athlete who ran a really gutsy race, sad that Letsrun can only be negative about this. She will be a force to be reckoned with in a few years under pro training.
maybe we are just trying to balance out the over the top worshipping
You really think she shows a lot of potential? And the glaring lack of foot speed isn't an issue?
I mean I hope she proves me wrong but you basically got to be sub 355 1500 to compete on the track right now in women's running
Like someone else said there was quite a gap put on her and also her form looks a little shaky, but hey I hope she proves otherwise
Of course her form looks shaky. The media reports she heavily cross-trains because of past foot injury issues.
So there is obviously huge possibility, but also unknown. The possibility is that now that the Olympics have come and gone, and this whirlwind year has come to a close, they can devote more time to what may be extensive PT work to rise above the injury issues, which can then lead to improvements in her speed and form.
Obviously, with asymmetry in her stride, she will not be competitive with the very best in the world. What is behind the asymmetry? Is it past foot issues? Can they be fixed?
If so, then with that big stride, she may end up doing unprecedented things. But I have trouble thinking that will be possible if her mechanics (and thus speed) never get fixed.
But she is only 21yrs old, an age when the body is still highly adaptable. Now is the time to really do the deep dive and work on these issues.
The ultimate potential of her career hinges on this unknown, which adds to her intrigue.
Nico gets 12th and gets celebrated, Valby gets 11th and gets mocked.
This. Valby ran great. She realistically wasn't going to kick with the top runners, but hanging with the best in the world up until the kick is awesome for this stage of her career.
No she did not. She ran 10 seconds slower than her PR in the biggest race of her life. Why would you say she ran a great race?
College athlete who ran a really gutsy race, sad that Letsrun can only be negative about this. She will be a force to be reckoned with in a few years under pro training.
maybe we are just trying to balance out the over the top worshipping
Of course her form looks shaky. The media reports she heavily cross-trains because of past foot injury issues.
So there is obviously huge possibility, but also unknown. The possibility is that now that the Olympics have come and gone, and this whirlwind year has come to a close, they can devote more time to what may be extensive PT work to rise above the injury issues, which can then lead to improvements in her speed and form.
Obviously, with asymmetry in her stride, she will not be competitive with the very best in the world. What is behind the asymmetry? Is it past foot issues? Can they be fixed?
If so, then with that big stride, she may end up doing unprecedented things. But I have trouble thinking that will be possible if her mechanics (and thus speed) never get fixed.
But she is only 21yrs old, an age when the body is still highly adaptable. Now is the time to really do the deep dive and work on these issues.
The ultimate potential of her career hinges on this unknown, which adds to her intrigue.
BTW, this is the perspective of an American fan. I have yet to see Valby ever make excuses with regard to it, or even discuss it. Part of that is due to the fact that her rise over the past year, starting with the Nuttycombe cross-country race last fall, when she rose up and absolutely crushed Katelyn Tuohy, has been phenomenal, and even more potential, with work, looms.
This. Valby ran great. She realistically wasn't going to kick with the top runners, but hanging with the best in the world up until the kick is awesome for this stage of her career.
No she did not. She ran 10 seconds slower than her PR in the biggest race of her life. Why would you say she ran a great race?
This performance obviously exceeded her Bryan Clay race PB. That race was more evenly paced, in much cooler conditions.